FAMILY HISTORY & RESOURCES CENTRE ~ inside the our local Folk History Museum ~ The Old School in Church Street ~ Sutton on Hull ~ HU7 4TL .. our historic area also covers Stoneferry, Wilmington, St Marks & The Groves
We are not always what we think we are ... it's nearly 10 inside The Old School ... time to open up!
Commonwealth War Graves open every day; Museum is OPEN EVERY FRIDAY  ~ 10 till 2 ~ 25 Church St, Sutton on Hull ~ HU7 4TL
Our Old Village Schools in 1911
ancient  villages  linked  by  their  shared  history

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~ Open again FRIDAY 22 June. Pop by the museum for a chat and a refreshing cuppa, Family History Research done here EVERY FRIDAY - no appointment needed, just bring the details you already have, and if possible, a memory stick to save them to |||| .. FAMILY HISTORIANS - please note major update to War Memorial lists ... .... .... .....


school photos above:
two historic postcards of 1910



view Side Menu on the left if not already visible, for a lot more button links
for tablet browsers, dump the Side Menu
Do feel free to leave a message ..
.. there's a lot of family names
and contacts already in there.
Why not add yours too .. ?
Do feel free to leave us a message in our Guestbook; see entries from all over the world

we deploy a ramp for diabled access into the Old School - do ask us for assistance free Wi-Fi inside the Old School - access code pinned up in tearoom over serving hatch
A local Folk Museum & Family History Centre is
inside this Grade II listed school building of 1859;
the oldest former council school in Hull
still used for educational purposes:
staffed entirely by Volunteers and
supported by visitor donations;

A SPECIAL WELCOME TO
OUR OVERSEAS VISITORS


G.D.P.R. Data Protection
What we know & What we do

Press F11 to view this site Full Screen
- without toolbars!
You can now also drag the menu
out of the way to the left.

You Can Click here to
enter Our Old School


. . . has anyone seen our ... little mouse!

Did you like our first image? ... here it is again


A Map to Find Us at HU7 4TL
we're the next building to the right of the marker!

Our area covers the historic parishes of both
Sutton and Wawne: Sutton parish also included
Stoneferry, Wilmington, St Marks and The Groves,
all the way down to the north side of Witham.

WE OFFER FREE
FAMILY HISTORY RESEARCH

every Friday 10 till 2
not just Sutton & Wawne;
ALL areas of the UK !


Wawne Primary School old school blazer badge - leads to School Visits Page

The Sutton War Memorial
now has a serious update to
insert 230 'missing men',
long, long overdue.

We can take a photo of your child for you
in our re-creation of a Victorian School photo ?
We can supply child's cap or other props - have 2 photos, one smiling, one serious!

Click these Chalkboards for More Details!


WE FIND CENSUS RECORDS;
regiments & squadrons;

ships RN & MN;
troopers & convoys;
lost trawlers, etc

St James' Church of England School, Sutton on Hull - the boys' cap badge


A map showing the relative
positions of our ancient villages is
Here



We are proud to have been supported so far by:
several local schools and
Sutton in Holderness Conservation Society
and many, many individual generous donors.

A full list of all our existing
Friends and Supporters
appears on our Friends Page





We can also be found on
Google+

Click HERE to see How To Use our Slate Tablets . . .


which leads to our 'Friends Page' . .



our website is hosted by Free Virtual Servers

Click Me ... I dare you
School Visits from All Schools very Welcome;
if you can get here, we'll entertain you !

Click the railway station sign
to see our restored station seat



You can contact us at:
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Museum & Family History Research on Fridays in the Old School Rooms, a marvellous display of life in Sutton and Wawne in times past; much more to see when 				you visit .. Incredible list of resources. Use also with FAMILY HISTORY button below ... Wawne Village, links to church, Village Hall and history Family History enquiries and list of resources for St James', & St Peters's, Wawne ; Resources list as of 10 May 2011 .. Use also with OLD SCHOOL button above 				.. dozens of links to military history, both local,national and military, including both World Wars, all armed services, and more send an EMAIL to us direct to the volunteers at the Sutton & Wawne Museum Local Photos & Images of Sutton & Wawne St James Churchyard - a full list of graves and memorials Sutton War Memorial .. photos of each war grave now added, Nov 2009 Wawne War Memorial
This website, and all its associated pages, is brought to you by the Sutton & Wawne Museum, a Free Museum inside the Old School, Sutton on Hull.
Sutton & Wawne Museum ~ inside The Old School ~ 25 Church St ~ Sutton on Hull ~ HU7 4TL ~~ www.suttonandwawnemuseum.org.uk ~~ admin@suttonandwawnemuseum.org.uk





WELCOME TO OUR WEB SITE

A very warm welcome to all our visitors,
and especially to all those
ex-Sutton & Wawne folk who
may have long since left these 'gentle climes'
for other abodes in the far corners of this globe.

With special greetings for those of you now settled
in South Africa, Canada, Australia, New Zealand,
the USA, and anywhere within our Commonwealth and
this great world-wide family of English-speaking peoples.

For all of you who were born and worshipped,
were married here in Sutton or Wawne,
or have loved ones resting here -
to you all, wherever in the world you live now,
an especially warm welcome indeed.
We're pleased you have discovered us -
do enjoy.

If you click the music button, near the bottom of the Menu Bar
on the left, you can hear a short peal of Sutton's bells.
They were added at Christmas, 2003.

Photos of all 14 CWGC War Graves in St James' churchyard
are now posted on the appropriate page.
This was finally fulfilled in time for Armistice Day, 2009.
Photos of the 5 Family Graves and Memorials
were added in time for Armistice Day 2014.

If you happen to be viewing from 'somewhere warm'
and miss the freshness of Sutton in former years ago,
perhaps you'd like to see our Little Slideshow
. . . or a couple of tiny bits of video of Sutton Churchyard,
now working again at the very end of the Photos Page.

At the last count, this website comprises about 70 pages
of assorted content, from serious history to local events,
plus a few items in a 'more light-hearted' vein,
as well as containing over 500 images.
Folk from the general Hull area may
well find these pages of interest.

May you all enjoy your visit
and brief stay with us.
We hope you will call again.
And of course, if you have a Family History
query we can help with . . .

For more information on how to access the various archives and sources
on this website, please visit what used to be our original Home Page where
there are several buttons and also a map explaining our location and area,
plus an explanation about The Groves, Wilmington and the former Sutton parish area.








PRESENTATIONS - TALKS - SPEAKERS
for Clubs and Societies

To further the finances of our museum, we have two speakers for hire
to talk to your society or interest group.
All proceeds from talks benefit the upkeep of this museum - no expenses ever deducted!

Five presentation subjects are available; all within the wider realm of history.
  1. The Air Defences of Hull During both World Wars - by Simon
  2. Posters & Poster Art - from both World Wars - by Simon
  3. Hull's Incredible Untold Story of WWII - by Dennis Chapman
  4. Demolished buildings of Old Hull from the Sam Allon Collection - by Rob
  5. Family History and Old Maps from the Internet - by Rob
  6. Family Photos and their Digital Restoration - either as PSP tutorial, or general interest - by Rob
Available most weekday evenings; daytime Weds & Thurs only

A projector / screen / laptop / leads, can be provided; only your mains power required.

A Wi-Fi connection is useful for the Internet maps talk.

See a list of Groups and Societies that have already supported us
for which we have already given talks and presentations.

please email for details










An Overview for Visitors
explaining this background map

~ the full screen map can be seen
if you scroll right to the end of this page


Here in Sutton on Hull, at the Sutton and Wawne Museum,
we were also anciently known as Sutton in Holderness.
We're just down the road from St James' Parish Church,
from which this old church school takes its name.
St James', in Sutton, was a daughter church of St Peter's at Wawne,
formerly known as Waghen, and now pronounced 'Worn'.
Both villages have War Memorials. We receive school class visits,
research Genealogy and Family History for our Friday visitors,
all linked in to a more general Yorkshire and British Social History.
Click to go to the end Click to go to the end

Old Wawne
This month's stylised background map is of Old Wawne. Old in the sense that, dated 1893, there is no one alive now ancient enough to remember that year, but still relatively recent in the wider realms of history. But there are several whose parents would have known the village laid out like this. As alluded to above, Wawne was once the more important village and very senior to Sutton, which only had a chapel and not a fully consecrated church. Accidents of history in some part, and the advent of railways to a large part in others, would determine the reverse to be true by the time this map was published.

St Peter's Church predates Sutton's St James Church by some 200 years. Right up to 1349, when St James' was first consecrated, the inhabitants of the old settlement of Sutton to the south east would come to St Peter's at least for weekly worship, and always on saints and feast days - of which there were a good many in the medieval calendar. St Peter's recently marked its 900th year of continuous worship, from it's foundation in the year 1135. That is some 758 years before this Victorian map.

It was to here that the folks of Sutton would have to come to get married, be baptised, and to bury their dead. Funeral processions would trundle their coffins, in rain or shine, winter or summer, along the undulating lane we know as Wawne Road, over the drain and up the hill to Carlam Top. Sutton desperately needed their own consecrated church, and not merely a 'daughter chapel'. But the year that St James' was consecrated, 1349, also happens to be the peak year of the Black Death, the same disaster that took off this mortal earth nearly all the inhabitants of the nearby abbey of Meaux and some say about a third of the population of all England. The abbey itself was comparatively new, and a sort of 'outstation' of that at Riveaulx. Oh, what stories could be told if only we could uncover some diaries from those times!

We have no reason not to suppose that the plague had an equally devastating effect on both villages. But, there were survivors - a few - names and identities lost in the mists of history. All native English folk of today, including those of Wawne and Sutton - wherever in England they were from originally - are descendants of the survivors of not only those terrible times, but every terrible time afterwards. Obvious, really, but still a moot thought. We are history.

Kings and Queens, wars and pestilence come and go, and by the time of this map, Wawne had grown and changed considerably. This map, compared to one of today, shows that it changed considerably again in the next 100 years. As did Sutton, of course, and just about every town and village in the country. We are all in a process of continuous change, of building up, and then knocking down. Though on balance, the recent 100 years has seen rather more 'building up' and 'covering up', mostly of fields and pastures such as some of those shown here. Fortunately, in the Wawne area, the building up has been relatively low key and just for domestic housing. The biggest obvious change on first observing the map more closely is the disappearance of Wawne Hall, and the addition of some of that new housing on the former church 'glebe lands', a portion of which is indicated here by the substantial Glebe Farm.

The old school is no longer in it's position seen here, on the road we know as Meaux Road, but that lane is not marked on here as such. Indeed, the only road named is Bargate Lane, just on the map to the east, now called Fairholme Lane. But I can confirm that both Ferry 'Road' and Green's Lane are marked on the wider map from which this is an extract. The Post Office is round the corner in Ferry Rd, and we can see the Methodist Chapel - Primitive if you please - is clearly marked. Victorians were nothing if not precise in their descriptions. Clarity of writing and speech were hallmarks of Victorian days, one feature we could do with a return of in today's ambiguous, vague-headed and double-speak age.

Of course, the biggest single feature other than the Anglican church, is that of Wawne Hall and its outbuildings. The map doesn't immediately make clear which is which, the hall itself or it's yards and stables. The latter are to the left of the name, the actual hall is directly underneath. Closer examination shows the giveaway features of faint lines, the formally laid out and landscaped grounds, the paths and flower beds and grassed areas. The hall was demolished in the 1920s, a gatehouse of which stood in Church Street until relatively recently. The hall had been requisitioned and ill-used by the military during the Great War, as was the case with many great houses and manors, and this and other factors connected with family demise and death duties all conspired to bring it to a sad end. And now, of course, the whole area of the former Wawne Hall is also given over to housing.

The map is very detailed, just a miniscule part of the massive series of nationwide maps undertaken by the government owned Ordnance Survey at regular intervals since the mid-1700s. The Ordnance Survey were originally founded for military reasons, and certainly not for our purposes as tourists or motorists. We are the thankful beneficiaries of those days, and are well used to such detail now, but even for it's time, this map is still remarkable and a testament to the Victorian eye for detail and map-making.

Note the observance of the difference between the deciduous and conifer trees in the hall parkland. If the map marked a conifer in a certain position, we can take it that it was there and not part of the map maker's imagination or a random scribbling. The same applies to the field trees along the lanes and field boundaries. There are lone trees marked in some of the fields, deliberately so because they did exist at the time of 'survey'. Some may still be there. In many cases, they would have been oaks, and some of them already very ancient. Only trees above a determined height would be noted down by the surveyor, so we only see mature trees. But a 350-year-old tree stading today was already a couple of hundred years old at the time of the map. Ah well, so, what is a hundred years between friends. Note also the lanes, the very grass verge edges are marked also, even indicating where a road or lane narrowed, or a junction widens out.

Although the village was surrounded by an ancient network drains, dykes and ditches, and of course, the river to the west, we can't see any of those here. But on the bigger map of the wider area, even the direction of flow of a stream or drain is shown, by a feathered arrow, as are any footbridges and footpaths. The numbers in the fields are plot numbers, each plot being attributed to a particular owner, underneath of which is the total area of that plot or field, in old fashioned acres, a measurement we still use today despite metrification. Though curiously, the acres seem to be to three decimal places. We can hazard a guess that those larger fields are still known by those numbers at the Land Registry today.

Two other features of note are the spring by the school, a 'cooling spring' which sounds rather refreshing, and the 'aviaries' in the hall grounds. It seems the owners, the Ashe-Windhams, had a collection of birds, very much the fashion in Victorian days. Even more wealth may one day have seen a 'menagerie' on the estate, for it was common for the very wealthy to keep a small zoo, perhaps in imitation of the sovereign; London Zoo in Regent's Park is the most famous example. Most English monarchs up to that time kept a zoo of such animals as newly discovered species - or those deemed exotic in their day - were collected and brought back to Britain. And so it was with birds, and we can assume that this aviary would have contained some very exotic examples from all over the discovered world. The position of the aviary here seems to be roughly where the county council later built the Cold War nuclear bunker in the 1970s.

A final tiny feature on the map are the several marked pumps, 'P', to pump water from deep wells. These can be seen at Glebe Farm, in the lane near the post office, the smithy in Bargate Lane and a couple of other places. We can assume that Wawne Hall had pumps within their outhouses and kitchens, all very modern for the time. The outdoor pumps, in a yard, would have been substantial affairs, of cast iron with large, heavy lever arms that clanked noisily as leather bellows created the vacuum to suck the water up from the depths. Pumping water was a task that would put muscles on any young man - or girl. Servant girls at the hall would have been expected to pump water amongst their many other arduous chores.

Type 'village pump' into Google and do an an image search - or click the link - and see the many various types available, according to income. Wawne's pumps would be very plain and functional, but you will see many ornate specimens, some even with gilded lettering, provided by the larger local authorities in towns and cities. A wealthy village would often have a very ornate central pump for the whole populace, paid for by the local squire to commemorate a notable event or anniversary, such as a monarch's jubilee. I wonder if Wawne had one such. Look at the little landscaped area on the south side of Church Street, opposite the entrance to Wawne Hall. That very much seems like a 'public pump' to me.

The provision of fresh, clean water for the general public in Britain over the centuries is a subject worthy of deeper study for those wanting to 'dip a toe' into early social history. It's a good starting point to going on to learn about the provision of the postal service, a police force, and then wider municipal services such as street lighting and parks and gardens. In the case of water, it naturally leads on to the provision of better health services and the huge reduction we see in infant mortality, as evidenced by reading some of the monumental inscriptions of the graves in St Peter's churchyard. No health service can achieve anything worthwhile unless there is clean water, something we should not take for granted.

Finally, observant children will notice the several 'creatures' added in and around the map. These were added by myself, purely for decorative effect, and do not indicate - as is the case of the trees - that they were neccessarily there at the time. I am pretty sure I have got some of the wrong creatures in the wrong fields, and an 'old timer' from the village would almost certainly tell he had never seen a fox up there, nor a mouse that near the church. Of course not. I added them because I thought some 'young historians' may enjoy the search ... there are 13 all told.

To view the map in higher definition, click the graphic below, press F11 to hide any toolbars, it will appear in glorious Full Screen. If you can see the faint white border all round, you have the full map. The original map is from www.old-maps.co.uk, and can be seen for free at their site. It's a bit of a twiddle to get them full screen, even to get the map you really want, but trust me, if you love maps, it's worth it. There's some more guidance below.

[ Press F11 again to get your toolbars back unharmed.
I hereby certify that no toolbars were harmed
in the writing of this discourse on Old Wawne].

Old Wawne Background Map

If you scroll this box right up, dump the side menu, and use F11,
it's possible to see the map Full Screen on 1366 x 768 displays,
even more so if you select to just view this frame, and lose the side menu.


Here's a treat for railway historians, to see what part of
Hull's dock railways mapped like in 1928:
Click anywhere along this line to go to Old Maps
When it loads, the centre of your map will be 'blued'; that's the print area.
Click the buttons top right to turn the blue off, and make Full Screen.
You may have to Scroll Out three or four times for the free maps to appear.
Then just scroll around to your heart's content. Wow indeed!
By Golly, there weren't half some railway steels hereabouts!!
The bit you will be looking at is now Siemen's turbine blade factory.
If that view floats your boat, when it loads, drag the map over
the city well to the west and have a peep further up Hessle Rd way.
I admit, it is tricky navigating without a roller mouse, and almost
impossible on a smart phone - the site was made for PC screens.
But it can be done.

view Side Menu on the left if not already visible, for a lot more button links       Top              for tablet browsers, dump the Side Menu

View The Old Background Map - RAF station


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