it's nearly 10 inside The Old School ... time to open up !       



ancient  villages  linked  by  their  shared  history


~ Open EVERY FRIDAY, our normal opening. Pop by the museum for a chat and a refreshing cuppa, or to dry out .... KEN COOKE'S drawings now on sale - £10 for framed copies, £5 unframed. Bring your children/grandchildren to recreate your own Victorian School photo at our vintage desks, with chalkboards; write your own message ... see photos below .. .....
school photos above:
two historic postcards of 1910



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We are a local Folk Museum and Family History Centre
inside this Grade II listed school building of 1859;
the oldest former council school in Hull
still used for educational purposes:
staffed entirely by Volunteers and
supported by visitor donations;



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A Map to Find Us at HU7 4TL
we are the next building to the right of the arrow!

Our area covers the historic parishes of both
Sutton and Wawne: Sutton parish also included
Stoneferry, Wilmington, St Marks and The Groves.

WE OFFER FREE
FAMILY HISTORY RESEARCH

every Friday 10 till 2
not just Sutton & Wawne;
ALL areas of the UK !


Wawne Primary School old school blazer badge - leads to School Visits Page

The Hull PALS
and Oppy Wood
click the poppy to go to a new page
dedicated to John 'Jack' Harrison VC MC

We can take a photo of your child for you
in our re-creation of a Victorian School photo ?
We can supply child's cap or other props - have 2 photos, one smiling, one serious!

Click these Chalkboards for More Details!


WE FIND CENSUS RECORDS;
regiments & squadrons;

ships RN & MN;
troopers & convoys;
lost trawlers, etc

St James' Church of England School, Sutton on Hull - the boys' cap badge


A map showing the relative
positions of our ancient villages is
Here



We are proud to have been supported so far by:
several local schools and
Sutton in Holderness Conservation Society
and many, many individual generous donors.

A full list of all our existing Friends and Supporters
appears on our Friends Page





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School Visits from All Schools very Welcome;
if you can get here, we'll entertain you !

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to see our restored station seat



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Museum & Family History Research on Fridays in the Old School Rooms, a marvellous display of life in Sutton and Wawne in times past; much more to see when 				you visit .. Incredible list of resources. Use also with FAMILY HISTORY button below ... Wawne Village, links to church, Village Hall and history Family History enquiries and list of resources for St James', & St Peters's, Wawne ; Resources list as of 10 May 2011 .. Use also with OLD SCHOOL button above 				.. dozens of links to military history, both local,national and military, including both World Wars, all armed services, and more send an EMAIL to us direct to the volunteers at the Sutton & Wawne Museum Local Photos & Images of Sutton & Wawne St James Churchyard - a full list of graves and memorials Sutton War Memorial .. photos of each war grave now added, Nov 2009 Wawne War Memorial




We have recently re-designed our museum brochure:


The front, and rear pages
are on the left:
and the inside panes
on the right.

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THIS IS AN
INSTRUCTIONAL & EDUCATIONAL SECTION:

ON HOW TO USE OUR VICTORIAN TABLETS
in 6 easy-to-follow steps.








PRESENTATIONS - TALKS - SPEAKERS
for Clubs and Societies

To further the finances of our museum, we have two speakers for hire
to talk to your society or interest group.
All proceeds from talks benefit the upkeep of this museum - no expenses ever deducted!

Five presentation subjects are available; all within the wider realm of history.
  1. The Air Defences of Hull During both World Wars - by Simon
  2. Posters & Poster Art - from both World Wars - by Simon
  3. Demolished buildings of Old Hull from the Sam Allon Collection - by Rob
  4. Family History and Old Maps from the Internet - by Rob
  5. Family Photos and their Digital Restoration - either as PSP tutorial, or general interest - by Rob
Available most weekday evenings; daytime Weds & Thurs only

A projector / screen / laptop / leads, can be provided; only your mains power required.

A Wi-Fi connection is useful for the Internet maps talk.

See a list of Groups and Societies that have already supported us
for which we have already given talks and presentations.

please email for details






Growing up in Sutton on Hull - out now
GROWING UP IN
SUTTON-ON-HULL


Price is £7.99 each

Andrew Suddaby's memories
of his boyhood years in Sutton,
in church, in the cubs and scouts,
in the 1950s and 60s.


new photo-DVD - out now
Computer DVD

Price is £10 each

a digitised version of
Merrill Rhodes' book of the
same name, with extras.
Read the whole book,
just like on a Kindle !
And enjoy the photos
and maps like you've
never seen them before!

Also now available in Town, at the
HULL PEOPLES' MEMORIAL SHOP
in Whitefriargate ... on Tues - Sat.















An Overview for Visitors
explaining this background map
~ the full screen map can be seen
if you scroll right to the end of this page


Here in Sutton on Hull, at the Sutton and Wawne Museum,
we were also anciently known as Sutton in Holderness.
We're just down the road from St James' Parish Church,
from which this old church school takes its name.
St James', in Sutton, was a daughter church of St Peter's at Wawne,
formerly known as Waghen, and now pronounced 'Worn'.
Both villages have War Memorials, and here we research
Genealogy and Family History for our visitors,
all linked in to a more general Yorkshire and British History.

Suttons' Railway
This month's stylised background map is of the historic railway station.
This map is also at 1:2,500 scale, and like before, should be best viewed as a form of 'art', as for a desktop, rather than as accurate maps for research. Thus any 'distress marks' of imaginary ink blots and paper wear and tear on parchment paper are mine, as are any extra 'objects' and symbols that may have been placed purely for decorative purposes; some are just for fun. The actual maps can be viewed, and for free, at www.old-maps.co.uk. Dates available range from the 1850s up to modern times.

Of course, our railway was not really just Sutton's railway. Historically, it could perhaps have been more properly described as a country railway that lead from a very large town to the coast. There were several other village stations or 'halt's along the line. At the time of its building, Hull was merely a very large - if important - market town having its very own small port. The final destination had been a growing cluster of coastal cottages that quickly grew into a small seaside resort directly as a result of its railway connection. The Hull to Hornsea line had mirrored another new line, that from Hull to Withernsea to the south, built about ten years earlier in 1854. Ten years earlier than that saw the opening of the line to Scarborough in the mid 1840s, thus amongst the earliest in the country. The line to Hornsea came last, opening in 1864, and thus the long-awaited new station in Sutton gave the village and whole district around a very welcome alternative mode of travel into Hull.

And it was fast at that, taking only some 20 minutes at best to get to the town centre. Compared with over an hour at times on a rickety pony or horse-drawn cart over terrible and often flooded roads, the railway was a massive boost to the area. Even buses today struggle to match that. At the time of the station's opening, our Old School had already been there for some 25 years, and the line's opening, followed by regular sights and sounds of early steam trains, must surely have caused much excitement, and distraction, amongst all pupils, especially with the line and station being so near. Pupils could easily see the comings and goings of trains from the rear playground and undoubtedly, some of their fathers worked on the railway, either at Sutton station or based further down the line in Hull. Besides, the regular blasts of whistles, coupled with noisy and visual smoke puff-puff-puffs of engines departing for the coast would always distract a young boy's attention from his marbles, or cards, or snobs. Some girls were distracted too, no doubt. But for most girls, trains were too smelly and dirty, and left awful smut marks on best new Sunday frocks or white aprons on nearby washing lines, as well as causing mothers to be in a perpetual bad mood on wash day.

We can imagine that not a few, particularly boys, gained their first lifelong ambition on having closer contact with a form of travel that even now captures the imagination - to be an engine driver! Or even a fireman, or signalman, or anything to do with the railway. The men in this pre-1914 image are clearly proud employees of 'the railway'. It was the same nationwide, irrespective of company; Great Western, Midland, LNER, or any, many young men coveted those jobs, particularly as an alternative to noisy and dirty, humdrum, factory or dock work. This was healthy fresh air!

Note the young lad lounging nochalantly on the gatepost - sheer envy abounds, he wants to be an engine driver but is quite prepared to start as a lowly porter. In the scheme of things at the time, they were well-paid, well-respected and much sought after jobs. Moreover, they were secure. Zero hours wasn't in it! A man was guaranteed 48 hours or more if he wanted it. Though it is also true many had to do more, even over 70 hours a week, whether they wanted it or not. But for most, hourly rates and living standards of the time meant raising a family on less than 60 hours pay a week was nigh on impossible. Note also the polish on those boots; no stationmaster - nor any foreman or supervisor of the time anywhere - would stand for anything less. Timekeeping, Smartness, Obedience and Civility, roughly in that order, were absolute pre-requisites to getting any job like this, being on the railway, the posts, the trams; even council gardeners or road sweepers wore a collar and tie to work and kept their boots clean. You did as you were told, and kept yer' nose clean as well!

I've already speculated that, had this line gone a bit further to the north before curving east to Swine, to avoid the expense of digging out the cutting through Sutton's low rise, the new station could well have been much further up Wawne Road. It would have then been a joint station with Wawne and properly entitled "Sutton & Wawne." But it was not to be, and "Sutton-on-Hull" it became, as told by our preserved platform seat outside our school. The cutting was cut, an expensive bridge connected the two sides of what was still 'High Street', and Sutton was catapulted straight into the benefits of what was then a still expanding industrial revolution. The railway didn't just connect Sutton to Hull, it connect Sutton to the rest of the country, to the world - indeed, to the empire! It was not so long after that it became possible to travel from Sutton to Paris all the way just by train, not even leaving one's carriage to cross the Channel once the famous channel ferry boat train service had started - a precursor to the Channel Tunnel.

The line lasted, for public travel at least, just about the 100 years, before it was closed in 1964. But in that tumultous century, one that saw queens and kings come and go, two world wars and several smaller ones, and unbelievable strides in technology, that modest little railway line pretty well made Sutton what it is today. Numerous wealthy business families bought land here and built their various mansions and halls in a wide variety of architectural designs, many of which still stand today as our 'big houses'.

Our map shows several such residences, already well established here some 50 years after the railway's arrival. The village didn't get enclosed by the enveloping city boundary until the late 1920s, and until well after the Second War was still very much a small country station on a minor branch line to the coast. Indeed, until as recently as the 1980s/90s when Robson Way was built, followed by the Hawthorn Brake housing development on the other side, there was nothing behind the churchyard, the Old School or the old station at all except low-lying, flat meadows all the way to coast. Sutton, on it's slight alluvial rise, was the last high ground to the north east for some way, and was very exposed to cruel eastern winds. Only the railway, delineated by the curved line of receding telegraph poles broke the view into a dim distance and leading almost to the sunlit tower of St Mary's church at Swine. A direct line beyond that took one out over Mappleton, the North Sea and over the even flatter holms of Denmark before seeing any more high ground, by then in southern Sweden. Sutton was very much on the edge, almost on the edge of England.

How many residents of the growing town, itself styled a city from 1897, came through Sutton for the very first time on their earliest excursions to Hornsea and thought, 'what a lovely place to come and live, so fresh, so bracing', to escape the smoke and rancid air of the fishing port and its expanding, smelly industries. Their best view would be on the return, approaching from Swine giving their first view of St James' church on a slight hill, with numerous high chimney pots appearing between the trees on the attractive skyline. To live in Sutton, indeed to find higher ground at all, became an aspiration, a life's ambition. The village population expanded very quickly. Estate agents would be frothing at the mouth in fits of pure ecstasy should such a land opportunity like that arise today.

The map shows the station and environs a little clearer than some we've shown before, mainly because we have 'clarified' it. The station house and ancilliary buildings are more clearly shown, the platform waiting rooms, station master's office, etc. As is our Old School. The date of this map is 1910, and accurately shows the school's shape, for the following year saw the building of the extension, which essentially filled in the gap between the two wings to give our extra classroom. Also shown are the outside toilets, of nightmare memory to all old pupils and unbelievably still in use until the school closed its doors in 1977. By that time, the old cottages along Church Street front had long gone, though leaving just the end cottage which ultimately became the St James' Church office, right at the front of the school. At one time, in the 1950s, I understand it was the lair of the 'nit-nurse'.

Clearly shown are smaller items, such as the signal box, and nearby, a solitary signal post. The line here is now double track throughout, and had been so since 1904, and the map also shows the footpath on either side giving access to the platforms; the western one, just before the 'Reading Rooms', led right along and past the signal box and gave access to Hornsea-bound trains. The other one from the station house led down the very steep path to the Hull-bound platform, indeed, the very same path there today that gives pedestrian access to the childrens' playground. Also visible is the coal siding, that undoubtedly brought the major part of Sutton residents' fuel for most of that hundred years.

When it was announced, along with most other minor branch lines around the kingdom, that the Hornsea line would close, there was naturally a huge furoré from the affected public. There were protests in the press, letters to ministers and local MPs and a tremendous number of phone calls to British Railways themselves in the lengthy row that ensued. But all to no avail, the government had made up it's mind. It came even more of a shock considering the last year or two before the announcement had seen the conversion away from the noisy and smoky steam trains over to the clean and quiet diesel, the engines of the future, for that was how it appeared at the time. Getting modern rolling stock might have given the impression to many that the future of the line was secure, but perhaps it was all a ruse after all.

One local story I always enjoy telling is of the man who lived almost opposite the station, and when getting ready to catch the train into Hull to work, could easily see from his bedroom window the puff of smoke as the train left the previous station a couple of miles away at Swine. He knew he then had less than five minutes to pick up his brolly and sandwiches, cross the road and stroll down the footpath slope just in time to see his Hull train pulling into Sutton station. He did it that way on clear sunny mornings for years. But came the day when the first diesel service appeared. At Swine that particular sunny morning, there was no smoke. Not even a whisper. His timing that morning was adrift enough to race down the slope just in time to see a brand-new DMU departing under the bridge. Modernisation didn't suit everybody.

The main excuse for this public transport butchery, as with all other threatened lines, was that it was uneconomic, it was losing money. But the figures were 'massaged' at best, as some lines later proved they were doing better than others and better than the figures had suggested. Too late then, the lines were gone, staff dismissed, track already being ripped up to make doubly sure of no late reprieves. No amount of public opposition or protest was going to sway the government's mind. What did the public know about it all anyway. Go is what was planned, and go it would. The bitter pill was sweetened, more for other lines and stations than Sutton, it is true, by the promise of a better bus service. A hollow promise that soon became as those extra services were themselves drastically cut or withdrawn altogether within 10 years or so.

By and large, the public were well duped, both by the figures and the promises of so-called experts, and basically just rolled over and gave way. Pretty much the same happened 20 years later with regard to buses. But times have changed. People trust authority and government less and less. They wouldn't get away with it so easily now. What Sutton could have done with that railway today, even more so considering the enormous growth in nearby population that came so very soon after, and continues to grow even now.

To the best of our knowledge, only two items from the old station survive today ~ unless you know different, of course ~ and we have both at the museum. The old station platform clock was rescued and somehow found its way into the Old School long before it was a museum. Ken Cooke, signwriter, artist, volunteer and general good guy of much generosity, restored the old clock with the help of his sister, Sylvia. They fitted an electronic battery drive, gave it a re-varnish, and it has hung on the wall in the main museum room ever since it opened as Merrill Rhodes' humble folk exhibition around the year 2000.

When it also transpired that a local farmer had saved one of the station seats, and re-homed it in one of his dry barns for some 50 years, his daughter Audrey donated it to us, and Ken restored it to its former glory, with added historical embellishments, like dates and the LNER logo. All of which reminds us that, for Sutton, losing its railway and quick links to the wider world was undoubtedly a disaster of the first water. But, other places fared much worse. Many have no public transport service now whatsoever. Sutton at least did have a reasonable bus service, the dubious benefit of being a village so close to a large town it was ultimately swallowed by it. The next station up the line, the village of Swine, fared nothing like so well.

But, perhaps we should be thankful in a way. Had the line been retained, and Sutton station thrived, the 130-year old school would still have closed, and our site would soon have become a station commuter car-park. Did somebody once say something about clouds and silver linings .. .. our Old School is now almost 170 years old and very much a local attraction as a folk museum.

To see the full map, press F11 and also dump the side menu. When you scroll right to the bottom of this page, and can see the thin white border all round near the edge of the map, you have the whole thing.

This aerial view is from the Hull Daily Mail collection, and dated c.1970. It opens in a full new window. Astral Way is just being built, Dorchester Ave barely started, with Stroud Crescent West, the flats on Honiton Rd, and the large trees of Lambwath Hall, all just visible in the distance. A few fields, the last reminder of this predominantly dairy farming area, are all that are left of a way of life that dated back hundreds of years. Keen viewers will note the line of the old railway, already closed for some 6 years though visible by the line of the opposite platform at the end of which are three small, individual trees. Also visible are the last remaining sheds and buildings of the RAF station.


If you scroll this box right up, dump the side menu, and use F11,
it's possible to see the map Full Screen on 1366 x 768 displays,
even more so if you select to just view this frame, and lose the side menu.


Here's a treat for railway historians, to see what part of
Hull's dock railways mapped like in 1928:
Click anywhere along this line to go to Old Maps
When it loads, the centre of your map will be 'blued'; that's the print area.
Click the buttons top right to turn the blue off, and make Full Screen.
You may have to Scroll Out three or four times for the free maps to appear.
Then just scroll around to your heart's content. Wow indeed!
By Golly, there weren't half some railway steel hereabouts!!
The bit you will be looking at is now Sieman's turbine blade factory.

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