ancient  villages  linked  by  their  shared  history

~ WE ARE OPEN AGAIN NEXT FRIDAY, July 28th ... Pop in for a chat and a refreshing cuppa, or to dry out .... or bring your children/grandchildren to recreate your own Victorian School photo at our vintage desks, with chalkboards; write your own message .. see photos below .. .....
school photos above:
two historic postcards of 1910



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we deploy a ramp for diabled access into the Old School - do ask us for assistance free Wi-Fi inside the Old School - access code pinned up in tearoom over serving hatch

We are a local Folk Museum and Family History Centre
inside this Grade II listed school building of 1859;
the oldest former council school in Hull
still used for educational purposes:

now supported entirely by
Volunteers and Donations;
though we are now in need of a major sponsor
to keep the museum open into 2018


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You Can Click here to
enter Our Old School


. . . has anyone seen our ... little mouse!

Did you like our first image? ... here it is again


A Map to Find Us at HU7 4TL
we are the next building to the right of the arrow!

Our area covers the historic parishes of both
Sutton and Wawne: Sutton parish also included
Stoneferry, Wilmington, St Marks and The Groves.

WE OFFER FREE
FAMILY HISTORY RESEARCH

every Friday 10 till 2
not just Sutton & Wawne;
ALL areas of the UK !


Wawne Primary School old school blazer badge - leads to School Visits Page

The Hull PALS
and Oppy Wood
click the poppy to go to a new page

We can take a photo of your child for you
in our re-creation of a Victorian School photo ?
We can supply child's cap or other props - have 2 photos, one smiling, one serious!

Click these Chalkboards for More Details!


WE FIND CENSUS RECORDS;
regiments & squadrons;

ships RN & MN;
troopers & convoys;
lost trawlers, etc


Get well soon, Peter ...  we miss you!
Get well soon, Peter . . .



A map showing the relative
positions of our ancient villages is
Here



We are proud to have been supported so far by:
several local schools and
Sutton in Holderness Conservation Society
and many, many individual small donors.
But we are now in need of a major sponsor.
Can you help?


A full list of all our existing Friends and Supporters
appears on our Friends Page




We can also be found on
Google+

Click HERE to see How To Use our Slate Tablets . . .


which leads to our 'Friends Page' . .



our website is hosted by Free Virtual Servers

Click Me ... I dare you
School Visits from All Schools very Welcome;
if you can get here, we'll entertain you !

Click the railway station sign
to see our restored station seat



You can contact us at:
admin@suttonandwawnemuseum.org.uk

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Museum & Family History Research on Fridays in the Old School Rooms, a marvellous display of life in Sutton and Wawne in times past; much more to see when 				you visit .. Incredible list of resources. Use also with FAMILY HISTORY button below ... Wawne Village, links to church, Village Hall and history Family History enquiries and list of resources for St James', & St Peters's, Wawne ; Resources list as of 10 May 2011 .. Use also with OLD SCHOOL button above 				.. dozens of links to military history, both local,national and military, including both World Wars, all armed services, and more send an EMAIL to us direct to the volunteers at the Sutton & Wawne Museum Local Photos & Images of Sutton & Wawne St James Churchyard - a full list of graves and memorials Sutton War Memorial .. photos of each war grave now added, Nov 2009 Wawne War Memorial




We have recently re-designed our museum brochure:


The front, and rear pages
are on the left:
and the inside panes
on the right.

Click either to enlarge.

Each opens in a new window.



THIS IS AN
INSTRUCTIONAL & EDUCATIONAL PHASE:

ON HOW TO USE OUR VICTORIAN TABLETS
in 6 easy-to-follow steps.








PRESENTATIONS - TALKS - SPEAKERS
for Clubs and Societies

To further the finances of our museum, we have two speakers for hire
to talk to your society or interest group.
All proceeds from talks benefit the upkeep of this museum - no expenses ever deducted!

Five presentation subjects are available; all within the wider realm of history.
  1. The Air Defences of Hull During both World Wars - by Simon
  2. Posters & Poster Art - from both World Wars - by Simon
  3. Demolished buildings of Old Hull from the Sam Allon Collection - by Rob
  4. Family History and Old Maps from the Internet - by Rob
  5. Family Photos and their Digital Restoration - either as PSP tutorial, or general interest - by Rob
Available most weekday evenings; daytime Weds & Thurs only

A projector / screen / laptop / leads, can be provided; only your mains power required.

A Wi-Fi connection is useful for the Internet maps talk.

See a list of Groups and Societies that have already supported us
for which we have already given talks and presentations.

please email for details






Growing up in Sutton on Hull - out now
GROWING UP IN
SUTTON-ON-HULL


Price is £7.99 each

Andrew Suddaby's memories
of his boyhood years in Sutton,
in church, in the cubs and scouts,
in the 1950s and 60s.


new photo-DVD - out now
Computer DVD

Price is £10 each

a digitised version of
Merrill Rhodes' book of the
same name, with extras.
Read the whole book,
just like on a Kindle !
And enjoy the photos
and maps like you've
never seen them before!

Also now available in Town, at the
HULL PEOPLES' MEMORIAL SHOP
in Whitefriargate ... on Tues - Sat.














An Overview for Visitors
explaining this background map
~ the full screen map can be seen
if you scroll right to the end of this page


Here in Sutton on Hull, at the Sutton and Wawne Museum,
we were also anciently known as Sutton in Holderness.
We're just down the road from St James' Parish Church,
from which this old church school takes its name.
St James', in Sutton, was a daughter church of St Peter's at Wawne,
formerly known as Waghen, and now pronounced 'Worn'.
Both villages have War Memorials, and here we research
Genealogy and Family History for our visitors,
all linked in to a more general Yorkshire and British History.

When Was Bransholme ?
This month's stylised background map is a slightly closer view of the area to the north west of Sutton, and right on the ancient boundary between the two parishes of Wawne and Sutton. It covers an area of roughly half a mile by a third, or 800 x 600 yards using old money. The boundary is formed by the Foredyke Stream, a drainage watercourse that was cut by the hands of monks of Meaux Abbey just another couple of miles away, though if truth be known, there always was a stream here given the low-lying nature of the land and the monks merely straightened and widened it to make it more efficient.

This map is also at 1:2,500 scale, and like before, should be best viewed as a form of 'art', as for a desktop, rather than as accurate maps for research. Thus any 'distress marks' of imaginary ink blots and paper wear and tear on parchment paper are mine, as are any extra 'objects' and symbols that may have been placed purely for decorative purposes. The actual maps can be viewed, and for free, at www.old-maps.co.uk. Dates available range from the 1850s up to modern times.

Several drainage watercourses have been marked out, and also clear is the line of the old lane we call Wawne Road that connected the two old parishes. Wawne village itself is a mile or so off to the north-west, and Sutton village a similar amount to the south-east, following roughly a straight line to its junction with the top of Leads Road. The Ordnance Survey gave fields numbers, under which was a number indicating the size of the field or enclosure, marked in acres to three decimal points. Just to the south east of Foredyke Bridge, the field number 38 and its adjacent fields along the dyke, numbers 19 and 20, have a boundary that roughly follows a modern well known road, which takes its name from the nearby farm. The farm was demolished in building this part of the estate, and is now long gone.

Also just visible is the Foredyke Clough, another one of those ancient terms associated with water. A clough was a controlled outlet of one drainage channel into another, man-made rather than a natural feature, the control being a rudimentary sluice gate. There were many channels all around this area, particularly when closer to the main water course around these parts, the River Hull. So there were also many cloughs, the most famous one most folks hereabouts will know being the one at Stoneferry. Because all that medieval drainage was so effective, later enhanced by water engineers of the Victorian age, the land now is far drier than it formerly was. Several watercourses have disappeared altogether, most notably the Foredyke Stream itself after it turned south. The modern Holwell Road roughly follows its course, albeit a hundred yards or so to the east, the former dyke now a huge, wide area of grass beloved of local children especially in winter after a good fall of snow.

The old line can still be seen for a large part of its course in several places by the ancient double hedgerow that lined both banks and left in situ when the stream was filled in, a glory of hawthorn blossom in spring, along with other intermixed species. Other ancient hedgerows that can still be seen are on the north side of Sutton Road, marking part of the former line of where West Carr Lane crossed our newer ring road on its way to Frog Hall Farm. Yet another ancient hedge still to be easily seen follows the public pathway that forms the western boundary of Sutton Park School. These hedges are far older than any family history we may be lucky to trace.

Hawthorn, anciently also known as the 'May-tree', grows ever so slowly, and I do mean slowly, so huge hedges of that size and abundant greenery are reliable indications of great age, centuries old in fact. In fact, it is one of our native British trees, commonly grown and layered as hedging on account of it's superb thorny quality of keeping cattle and livestock contained better than any man-made fence. As the May-tree, it is also the only native plant that is named after the month in which it blossoms.

The Foredyke Stream is the main water feature to be seen, but it's by no means the only important or even the major one. The Stream itself comes from the northeast, where it cuts across the Holderness Drain a few hundred yards to the right of this map, which itself is still a main watercourse draining wetlands the other side of Routh and Tickton. Other streams drain into them both, including the Lambwath Stream that comes down from Skirlaugh and others that drain Arnold Carrs. The name 'Foredyke' can perhaps be taken as a good indication of it's importance when first cut all those centuries ago, being of 'fore' most importance in its day. It is hardly surprising, when a modern Ordnance Survey map is viewed showing the dykes and drains today, that there still can be a severe degree of flooding when the system is overwhelmed, even with the assistance of modern pumping stations and infrastructure. It seems that there is 'water, water, everywhere . . ." to quote a famous ancient marriner.

Today, the area of this map now contains a major school and several hundred houses. Most are on slightly higher ground as it rises away from the drain, but not all. To the west, the drain that runs straight from the Foredyke as the latter turns its corner, is the Wawne Drain, and that runs directly to the River Hull to exit just south of what had been Gibraltar Farm through fields called Midmeredales and Grey Legs. Perhaps the latter is an indication of the species of birds, in reality geese and waders, that frequented these wetland areas in former times. Every old name on any map means something, even if that meaning has been long lost in obscurity. Though how Gibraltar Farm got its name is beyond me; I've scoured the area and cannot find a large rock of any reasonable size anywhere. Maybe a former farmer was once a marine.


This aerial view is from the Hull Daily Mail collection, and dated c.1970. It opens in a full new window. Astral Way is just being built, Dorchester Ave barely started, with Stroud Crescent West, the flats on Honiton Rd, and the large trees of Lambwath Hall, all just visible in the distance. A few fields, the last reminder of this predominantly dairy farming area, are all that are left of a way of life that dated back hundreds of years. Keen viewers will note the line of the railway, already closed for some 6 years though visible by the line of the opposite platform at the end of which are three small, individual trees. Also visible are the last remaining sheds and buildings of the RAF station.


If you scroll this box right up, dump the side menu, and use F11,
it's possible to see the map Full Screen on 1366 x 768 displays,
even more so if you select to just view this frame, and lose the side menu.


Here's a treat for railway historians, to see what part of
Hull's dock railways mapped like in 1928:
Click anywhere along this line to go to Old Maps
When it loads, the centre of your map will be 'blued'; that's the print area.
Click the buttons top right to turn the blue off, and make Full Screen.
You may have to Scroll Out three or four times for the free maps to appear.
Then just scroll around to your heart's content. Wow indeed!
By Golly, there weren't half some railway steel hereabouts!!
The bit you will be looking at is now Sieman's turbine blade factory.

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