WE ARE A FAMILY HISTORY & RESEARCH CENTRE ~ inside our local Folk History Museum, founded by Merrill & Peter Rhodes 20 years ago ~ The Old School in Church Street ~ Sutton on Hull ~ HU7 4TL ..
our historic area covers the former St James parish area, so also Stoneferry, Wilmington, St Marks & The Groves.Perhaps we should have called it 'The Merrill Museum'; that would have been very appropriate

Our Old Village Schools in 1911  --- and today !


Victorian School founded 1859 ~   This   is   the  Home   Page   ~      Merrill's Museum founded 1999
Museum Folk & Family History Research on Fridays in the Old School Rooms, a marvellous display of life in Sutton & Wawne in times past ..
much more to see when you visit ..Incredible list of resources.Use in conjunction with FAMILY HISTORY button below ... Wawne Village, links to church, Village Hall, Parish Council, and history St James Churchyard - a full list of graves and memorials   War Memorials ..
books, DVD, pamphlets, etc, to do with local history or interest. General Links, many local to Hull and the East Riding ; includes many Family History links, with an emphasis on links to the Armed Forces and their associations.
~    ancient    villages    linked    by    our    two    churches    &    family    histories    ~
site last
updated  23:55   Nov 25th  ...          ~~~    news on repairs, plus two new  pics, are further below    ~~~

We will open again as soon as we can; repairs to walls now all finished, new flooring being 'laid' next Thurs; 
                            now hope to open again before end of November. it's nearly 10 inside The Old School ...
time to open up! This is the old clock from Sutton Station, retrieved when the station closed and used inside the school for the last ten years until closure in 1976.

We will open again as soon as we can; repairs to walls now all finished, almost done now, floor to sort out next, 
          hope to open again before end of November.
Bookings for Talks, Speakers, re  Sam Allon Collection, etc ..
  at outside venues, church halls, schools, etc, are suspended for the rest of this year.
Please see info posted below, nearer to  
the end of this page


Other   News  is  Now Further Down, on this Same Page  



There is an explanation of this background map further below, scroll right down, and also leads to an
"ImageMap" showing some 30 places of historic Sutton interest.  Loads full size, use F11 for full screen



WELCOME TO ALL OUR WEBSITE VISITORS
Click this graphic to see a potted history of the Old School : it takes about 20 mins to read.
Local History Museum & Family History Research Centre
within a Grade II listed Victorian Church School

there's been a museum in this Old School in Sutton on Hull for over 20 years!

A very warm welcome to all our visitors,
and especially to all those ex-Sutton & Wawne folk who
may have long since left these 'gentle climes'
for other abodes in the far corners of this globe.

With special greetings for those of you now settled in
Australia, Canada, New Zealand, South Africa or the USA,
or anywhere within our Commonwealth and this
great world-wide family of English-speaking peoples.
old school road sign SPAM  ...
just the memory brings a smile !
For all of you who were born, worshipped
or were married here in Sutton or Wawne,
or have loved ones resting here -
to you all, wherever in the world you live now,
an especially warm welcome indeed.
We're pleased you have discovered us - do enjoy.

Lest We Forget - We shall NEVER forget!

Photos of all 14 CWGC War Graves in St James' churchyard
were added for Armistice Day back in 2009.
Photos of a further 5 Family War Graves and Memorials were
added in time for Armistice Day in 2014. A database of the 420+ men
on all of our memorial plaques was started in 2014, and completed in time for the
2018 anniversaries; it includes over 240 men who were previously
not remembered here within their own parishes and local memorials.
The new plaques can be seen on the War Memorial ~
For those seeking, or interested in 'Military Links', our page comes recommended.

We are the holders of a huge photo archive, possibly the largest 'village archive'
in the East Riding. The Sutton collection alone comprises some 3,500 images, and the
Wawne collection a further 500; well over 4,000 photos of the area and its people.
There are many more in smaller individual donated collections too,
including those of a famous former headmaster, from the 1960s,
plus a further 2,000 images of gravestones, memorials and plaques.


The vases of flowers are to cheer all ex-pat Sutton & Wawne folk
who are in need of some cheering up right now.

Clicking the buttons further below will start or stop a short peal
of Sutton's bells. They were added at Christmas, 2003.

If you or your kin were ever married or worshipped
in Sutton or Wawne,you will love access to our 'online-DVD' - for just £5.
It features both historic medieval churches ... see EVENTS button below for details.



May you all enjoy your visit and brief stay with us.
We hope you will call again.
And of course, if you have a Family History
query we can help with . . . we're here to help !
     or        the churchbells

MAPS - to find us

our new 12  and  8-page
Parish Booklets
our new PARISH BOOKLETS - �2 Sutton -- �1.50 Wawne
£2 each - for our funds
OUR MUSEUM BROCHURE
     
The front and rear pages are on the left:
and the inside panes are on the right.

There is an explanation of this background map further below,
scroll right down, and it also leads to an "ImageMap" showing some 30 places
of historic Sutton interest. Loads full size, use F11 for full screen
The Background map of The Groves that was formerly on this page,
along with a lengthy explanation of the history of that former
Sutton parish area, is now on a dedicated page of its own.
It can be accessed by clicking
. . . The Groves

This Old School was already a venue for local organisations; bcv!
eg: the Sutton Branch of the W.I. met here on Wednesday evenings,
and the local Tai-Chi club on Monday evenings.


Details of how to Hire THE OLD SCHOOL are here , and more photos showing the venue are here.
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We also have a presence on GOOGLE +, with a map and full directions if required, and many more photos - opens for you in a new window     view Side Menu on the left if not already visible, for a lot more button links         DUMP THIS SIDE MENU for Tablet Browsing     Rob's Photo Restoration & Repair Page ...
bring to the Museum, or click button for more details ..ALL work benefits the museum funding

reload this page with a Side Menu .. .. if it helps you ... or dump it if not

- Our website does now seem to display correctly in most browsers on PC/laptops.
Not so good on mobile phones. Some better than others. Suggest you dump side menu
 



the 2 oval school photos at the top
are historic postcards of 1910

for tablet browsers, dump the Side Menu
view Side Menu on the left if not already visible, for a lot more button links

dozens of links to military history, both local, to Hull and East Yorkshire, national and military, including both World Wars, all armed services, and more ...
SITEMAP ...
to explore other pages on this site, or find out if you are lost
  A lot of family names & contacts
are already in our Guestbook ...
Why not add yours too .. ?
Do feel free to leave us a message in our Guestbook; see entries from all over the world

we deploy a ramp for diabled access into the Old School - do shout or bang door to ask us for assistance      free Wi-Fi inside the Old School - access code pinned up in tearoom over serving hatch

Founded by Merrill Rhodes, and husband Peter, we are a local Folk Museum & Family History Centre inside this Grade II listed Victorian school building of 1859; the oldest former council school in Hull still used for educational purposes: staffed by Volunteers and supported entirely by visitor donations;

Press F11 to view this site Full Screen
- without toolbars!
You can also drag the menu
out of the way to the left.

Click Here also to enter
Our Free Museum Pages
 
A Map to Find Us at HU7 4TL
The little dead-end side road
is a free car park !

Our area covers the historic parishes of
both Sutton and Wawne villages.

Sutton parish also included Stoneferry, Wilmington, St Marks and The Groves,
all the way down to the north side of Witham,
until the 1880s when new churches
for thoss areas were built.

WE OFFER HELP WITH
FAMILY HISTORY RESEARCH

every Friday 10 till 2
not just Sutton & Wawne;
ALL areas of the UK !
Donations Always Welcome!


Wawne Primary School old school blazer badge - leads to School Visits Page
We can take a photo of your child for you
in our re-creation of a Victorian School photo ?
Even using one of these Victorian iPads!
We can supply child's cap or other props - have 2 photos, one smiling, one serious!


Click these Chalkboards for More Details!
WE FIND CENSUS RECORDS &
interpretation of Service Records,
ships, regiments & squadrons found;

both Royal & Merchant Navy;
Troopships & Convoys;
lost trawlers, etc

St James' Church of England School, Sutton on Hull - the boys' cap badge
We are proud to be supported by:
several local schools and the
Sutton in Holderness
Conservation Society
and many individual
generous donors.

A full list of all our existing
Friends and Supporters
appears on our Friends Page


Sutton & Wawne DVD-ROM Online





our website is hosted by
Free Virtual Servers


We can also be found on our
GOOGLE BUSINESS WEBSITE

Our Twitter page
We are a self-funded private museum.
Entry is always free ... but we do
depend entirely on donations


which leads to our 'Friends Page' . .

A £5 donation gives access to our online version
of our DVD, containing Merrill's book and many
extra old photos, plus many modern images
of both churches, St Peter's and St James'.



G.D.P.R. Data Protection Declaration
Click Me ...
I dare you

School Visits from All Schools
very Welcome; if you can get here,
we will entertain you !

We can also host arranged visits by
Church Groups, Townswomens' Guilds,
Womens' Institutes, Clubs & Societies.


Click the railway station sign
to see our restored station seat



You can contact us at:
admin@suttonandwawnemuseum.org.uk


view our FACEBOOK page
Museum & Family History Research on Fridays in the Old School Rooms, a marvellous display of life in Sutton and Wawne in times past; much more to see when you visit ..
Incredible list of resources.Use also with FAMILY HISTORY button below ... Family History enquiries and list of resources for St James', & St Peter's, Wawne send an EMAIL to us direct to the volunteers at the Sutton & Wawne Museum dozens of links to military history, both local,national and military, including both World Wars, all armed services, and more Local Photos & Images of Sutton & Wawne

This website, and all its associated pages, is brought to you by the Sutton & Wawne Museum, a Free Museum inside the Old School, Sutton on Hull.
Sutton & Wawne Museum ~ inside The Old School ~ 25 Church St ~ Sutton on Hull ~ HU7 4TL
~~ www.suttonandwawnemuseum.org.uk ~~ admin@suttonandwawnemuseum.org.uk








Our Museum, inside an 1859 Victorian School
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updated 25 Nov 2021

OUR SMART NEW FLOOR - .. click to enlarge OUR WORN OUT OLD FLOOR ... click to enlarge SORRY, WE REMAIN CLOSED
But the carpet is down ...
see pics ...
worn out old floor,
and our smart new carpet.

We're getting closer . . .
by tiny degrees.

Sorry folks ... unlikely to re-open before Christmas now.
We've run out of time for this year, it seems, still too much to do with rebuilding the displays and putting everything back.

I'm fed up with constantly having to post we're closed.
But it's time to accept reality. 
Looks like early 2022 is the best we can hope for.
By the time we do re-open, it will be very
nearly 2yrs since the first Lockdown.
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It is not often I'm around in Sutton to take a pic on
November 11th, or be at the short service,
unless it's on a Friday.

The photos each side are our tribute inside the
Old School that were viewed by some who attended the Remembrance Service on Sunday.

our tribute to Lt Jack Harrison VC MC . . . click to enlarge one of the 19 Wargraves in our churchyard . . . click to enlarge our tribute to Lt Jack Harrison VC MC . . . click to enlarge

Update :  25 Nov

Any chance of re-opening before Christmas has now passed.

As may be seen from the updated snaps further above,
the room is now a lot brighter and looks ready
to receive our displays of Sutton & Wawne heritage.

Repair work is completed, new floor now down. 
Then it is just a matter of rebuilding all our displays
and filling the shelves. We're 'getting there ... '

We will still be "covid-minded", so we ask folks to be careful and mindful of the risks to all of us.  It's not over yet, so it would be a shame to come so far, such upset of this long disruption, only to succumb and have staff and visitors going off sick ... or worse!

Admittedly, since about September, the continued closure has been solely down to ongoing repair work.  We ended up doing much more than was urgent or originally planned.
But it has totally refreshed the place, as visitors will hopefully see in the fullness of time.

In the meantime, as I struggle to find meaningful subjects for these pages during our extended closure, some shipping enthusiasts of old may enjoy an article from a copy of
SEA BREEZES of 1951 ...

"HUMBER KEELS & SLOOPS" ...
I know of at least one of our volunteers who has 'barge folk' in their family tree, and I've heard of others.  Some of the details may be of use to such families, for some of the vessels named must surely crop up on census returns of 1911 and
at least confirm the type of vessel.
Give it a go!!  Scroll down a bit more .. ..



Having to continually report delay after delay, either in getting the work done, or in refurbishing the paintwork, is rather tedious. So I thought that considering the news has just been ongoing disappointment, it's time for something a little more light-hearted.  Browsing through the 1951 Parish Magazine a couple of interesting little snippets caught my attention. In the section of the Vicar's report on “The Day School”, there is the following report. Heyup, I thought, this is our Old School !

On Thusday, 12 July, 1951, they had their annual ‘Open Day’.  Amongst the many other events and displays put on by all classes, some 150 parents and visitors were treated to a display of Norwegian Dancing by the Senior Girls, in traditional rural costume.   

So, that explains the occasion of a photo we have in our collection ... and puts an exact date to it. It turns out our photos of the event, by headmaster Mr Johnson, are in the wrong folder, for 1953.  We can correct that now and mark them with the right date, though I think they can stay in that folder for now. I also have a feeling I've seen a colour version of this somewhere - or similar.

 
The vicar's report ends as thus:

On July 20th, they had an unusual cricket match. Well, unusual for those times maybe, but not so much now.  Headmaster Eric Johnson’s 'Boys 11' played Mrs Johnson’s 'Girls 11'.  The report went on to explain that the match went on to a basic struggle to see which team could bowl the least number of ‘wides’.  Although the boys won by six runs, the girls now claim that one boy was a natural left-hander.  The vicar reports, “By the way the girls are practicising, it looks as though another annual event has been established.”  

My my, just think, such blatant favouritism for the boys team today would make the national press with a documentary on BBC TV concerning such overt sexism.

I wonder if any of our viewers today recall that day, either the dancing or the cricket match.  And did that go on to be an annual event, as the vicar suggested?  If anyone happens to have a photo of the event would be a special touch of magic.  It may be we have one, and someone one day could connect the pic to that occasion.


At least, that little lot should give someone somewhere a smile ... we're a little short on smiley stuff at the moment. I know I am!


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Older folks may well recall a magazine
from years ago called
SEA BREEZES
I have some from 1951-55,
about 4 yrs of monthly issues.
(your webmanager used to be a fully fledged 'ship nut')

Eventually, I'm going to give these mags away, but first will have another good look through and see if I can find
any more interesting locally related articles like this one,
on HUMBER KEELS & SLOOPS
I've no idea who wrote this article, the mag
doesn't say, Humber Keel or who drew the
two lovely pen & ink sketches.
But I daresay the truth will out one day.
I've scanned and reproduced
the whole article HERE or click the pic
for those with a deeper interest.

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OUR 2020-2021 HEAD SCARVES EXHIBITION

Our long-delayed 2020-2021 Exhibition
has now closed in the Old School Hall,
but is still available to view here, online. A few pics of the inside exhibition are on the EVENTS button.

The online exhibition (button below) comprises some 17 pages of many memories of working women in Hull, in avariety of trades and jobs, the linking theme being the headscarves they wore. Many ladies, now of 'advanced' years, were invited to tell their stories of their working life. Over a cup of tea or coffee, and in groups, they were also invited to 'design a scarf' with art materials on the table as they talked.  It is those personal designs that we show here, some of which are very pertinent to their story, very moving and of great poignancy.
And there is humour too ...
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  VOLUNTEERS WELCOME!
Should anyone wish to become a volunteer, it is Liz and June you will need to see, and that will now have to be on a Friday again as before. The previous arrangement for Mondays has now ceased.

Although we are closed to visitors, potential volunteers will notice 'activity' on most Fridays, perhaps the door open (maybe being repainted!) and folks about.

After we re-open fully, we will be back to normal Fridays, and as hinted above, we want to open on Saturdays too. Let them know your preferences; it could be for a Friday, or Saturdays when we get that going in the future, or if you wish, for both. You can do it every week, or just once a month. Actually, two of our new volunteers have not seen us open yet at all, but have been valuable hands with our tidying and cleaning regime. On Fridays, some cleaning will still be done in the main hall and tearoom, kitchen, etc. For existing volunteers who want to come and help. Rob will be there from 10am to unlock for the willing and able.

Added to that was the news of Rosemary's 100-mile walk in Sussex, back in August. All in all, I can tell you that the Just-Giving page has raised some £340, our own stall on the day of Jo Lyon's " Sutton Street-Boot" another £300, and we have had some larger private donations as well, one in memory of one of our founder volunteers, the late Barbara Cross, and several others. This has helped us so much that, as well as the remedial work, re-plastering, etc, of the gable wall, the room itself will get a fresh lick of paint and substantial 'refurbishment'. 

We are now emerging from the dark gloom of the past two years, and at the same time give thanks, and I mean real thanks, to all our supporters, young and old.  We are well aware that many small museums and displays such as ours, even some larger ones, have not survived, and their stories and heritage lost forever. We will not suffer that fate just yet, and it's down to you, the supporters of the wider Sutton & Wawne Museum community wherever you are, all of you reading this. Sutton is definitely going to retain this major part of the village's heritage.

So, a big Thank You, all of you, both those who have expressed a wish to visit us again and give us your support, and all those local folk who held their "Sutton on Hull- Street Boot" on Aug 7th for our benefit.  We really do need you all, each and every one.
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MUSEUM ROOM REPAIRS

As a matter of interest, the right-hand image shows our white-pannelled room divider, that Rosemary and her classmates will well recall. One of two 1859 room dividers, they're part of the original features inside the Old School, as well as the original roof of course. Our little Museum inside The Old School ..
click to enlarge The lower panels were originally of glass, as they still are in the other one at the far end of the hall, which enabled teachers to view the classes right through the length of the school when it was divided into three large classrooms.  The panel seen here is pretty well fixed now, has been painted many times over and cannot be moved.  I think if we moved it, to fold it as before, the roof would collapse! As well as complete these immediately neccessary repairs, it is hoped we can redecorate much of this room, with a fresh lick of paint to the walls and display cabinets.

FUTURE FUNDING
It is worth stating here, the future of this Old School, and the museum and archives within, is by no means assured.  We literally run from crisis to crisis, very dependant on what goes 'in the jar' and what we sell in teas and biscuits. A great deal of work is needed just to keep it usable as it is, apart from this immediate work. We are now in need of some serious sponsorship, and this in times that couldn't have been much harder when appealing for funding.  Money is short, repair costs are going up, and we need a guardian angel of some sort to save this place for Sutton and Wawne, and the future. It's a bit cheeky, I know, but .... any offers gratefully accepted.  If anyone knows anyone with deep pockets ..

In the meantime, the interest in Sutton's past continues to grow. There has been a considerable amount of interest, and several 'new' school class photos have 'come to light', along with several names of previously unknown faces, identified by their former classmates in great feats of memory after over 60 years!

Memories are failing, some folks recall the faces, but not the names, and others know many names but can't put a face to them.  A very mixed picture, and amongst our dozens of class photos in the museum, there are many, many blank spaces still to be filled in. A visit to the museum to see our collection when we re-open may well help to prompt other long-lost memories. 

This is where I think, with the help of Facebook,
many of you who still reside in the area could help. 

Click the EVENTS button in the menu to find out more.

Also, the DVD which so many of you have heard about,
'Merrill's Book' - plus extra photos of both villages/churches, is now available as a download.

Email your order, send £5 to our account number,
and it's as good as done. Usually, the same day.
Account Details on our FRIENDS page.

It works on a PC/laptop/iPad, and some phones.
We hope that folks will view this as a form of 'Crowd-Funding' for our museum. If you send us a Fiver,
we send you something worthwhile.

Sorry, cannot take cards, etc, just direct online banking by
BACS, or through PAYPAL.
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With everyone and everything turning 'green',
you too can have your Greens back ... ...

do you have pics where your greens upped and left ... ?
 .. click to enlarge
Do you have favourite but faded family print from the 1970/80s, turned pink or mauve like these? We can bring the colours back for you to take to a print shop to reprint. Click an image
to see what can be done.
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click to enlarge
a rare treat; an online photo album, free to view --- ENJOY! The Orange Album to the right is a collection of 80+ glass plates, the 2nd volume of the Rev George Coleman collection.
Click the album to go
to the page to view -  FREE!


Can anyone shed a bit of light on this image please?

It appears on the backpage of Merrill's book on Sutton, Bransholme & Wawne, and is an extract from an 18th century painting, said to be depicting what remained back then of the old medieval gatehouse at Meaux Abbey. 
Our question is, does anyone know the original painting, who the artist was, and where might it be now?  We've a feeling it is local, but none of the credits in Merrill's book give any clue as to present location. Someone will know  ... ?
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A long-intended project to sort out all of Merrill's old computer files is now complete. Quite a task it has been too, but it has given rise to a slow realisation that we had a veritable hidden gem all along; what I discovered really amounts to a tribute to the many years of hard work of
Merrill and Peter together - More . . . .

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Additionally, another project to digitise the whole of the index of our massive photo collection is also now complete, one of several things started and completed during lockdown, if only for want of something useful to do.  It always needed doing, but the job was problematical when being used every week and needing to be available at all times. Over 1,800 name cards, containing some 3,000+ names are now searchable on a database, giving which album and which page any particular surname appears on.  Some names, famous local ones, had as many as 4 cards, listing dozens of members of that one family, or several families.
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We wish all our many friends, supporters and well-wishers, wherever in the world they are, all the very best and good health.     Chin Up !!

We have a new facility for the purchasing of our online DVD for £5, with online payment taken and access codes to the DVD sent, usually now the same day.  See the FRIENDS button in the menu, or go to the Museum Page.  Anything we sell helps our funds; no expenses ever deducted.
This online-DVD access is 100% pure funds to us, no costs involved.

A FREE ALBUM

If you would like to browse an album full of history, we have now made available another album from our extensive collection online, which previously could only be viewed by visiting the museum.  The album is changed from time to time, depending on how it goes.
Click the album, or EVENTS button in the menu to view.
You can look at this one for FREE!
LOCKDOWN ECHOES

It is very quiet in the Old School Museum
Even the mice have gone to sleep
Nothing moves, and all is still .. ..
No sounds, no laughter, not even a peep.


But hark, is that a creak .. ?
Of a squeaky floor or a wooden door ...
... a softly closing desk lid enhancing
the echos of children, long, long, past -
in gentle laughter and the joys of dancing.


For if we stand, and listen, so very quietly
We can hear in those very rafters
their joyful songs, and a glee that lasts
and will still be sensed by those
who come here in years long after ...
long after we all have long since passed.



from a Dominoes teaching book .... from a Dominoes teaching book ....
  © 2020

Sutton & Wawne Museum

The images above were taken by Eric Johnson
for the Dominoes series of teaching books.
Our own collection of the series is incomplete,
and so these have been supplied from scans done
by Amanda Denwood who now lives in Cumbria.
Amanda visited the museum in 2019, and noted
which books were missing, and so offered to scan
some missing ones for us from her own collection.
 
For folks longing for a semblance of the past,
even the distant past in that far off childhood country
called Nostalgialand, we have a few copies of a new
book to offer, by former Sutton resident and long-time
friend of our museum, Andrew Suddaby.

CLICK TO SEE inside our new ~ A5 format ~ 50pp = £5 in museum, or ££7 to UK addresses post paid

 More general to Britain, but with nods to some
Hull memories that are not specific to Sutton,
this short book in a nice sized font for easy reading
is a general tour of what we did, watched,
and listened to in the UK years ago.
Priced at £7.00 including UK postage only
it will be on offer inside the museum for £5 when we re-open.
Sorry, overseas postage cannot be offered right now,
and in anycase, the cost would probably exceed the book.
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DVD-ROM ...
now online, works on PC/laptop/iPad There's more Sutton & Wawne nostalgia to be had on our Online-DVD, which is a special edition attached to our website for Worldwide Access, and costs £5.

Email us your order, pay by Online Banking (BACS, or PAYPAL), and you will be sent the user ID and password by private message, either by email, or FaceBook Messenger, whichever you choose.
Sutton & Wawne
~ DVD-ROM ~

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Let us help you start your tree, and find out where you come from ..
We help you start your Family History Research ..We are not always what we think we are ...





PRESENTATIONS - TALKS - SPEAKERS
for Clubs and Societies

S&W MUSEUM

Bookings for Talks at Outside Venues, other churches, halls, etc.

In view of so many uncertainties, it seems more prudent not to resume our offers of speakers for outside venues for this year, 2021, even if and when the museum is again opens to visitors.

Nothing could resume before September anyway, and there will be more certainty by 2022 about what is legally allowed, and what is considered wise to do even if strictly legal.

So for this year, we will not be offering to do talks and slide presentations, other than those we may book ourselves to take place within the Old School hall itself, where we are more in control of arrangements within our own volunteer staff.

We regret any disappointment this decision may cause, but we feel sure that interest groups will have had similar discussions and misgivings about whether should be wary of resuming previously normal activities too soon.

 Hopefully, we can say that by next year, 2022, 'normal service' will be resumed.




Volunteer
Staff Area


a small selection of miscellaneous
pics of Volunteer Staff memories are
now available to view for those staff
with the password to access them

Photo Album Archive
now complete up to Folder 19
and Wawne folders 1 - 4


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T H E   B A C K G R O U N D   M A P
.. click the little map at the bottom of this page
to see a clearer map in a full window:

backspace to return ..



OLD-MAPS.CO.UK

It is a great shame that we have to report
on the news that the old-maps.co.uk website
is closing ... permanently, on Oct 31st.

Which means none of our old maps, with a link to that site will no longer work after then.
It will be a great loss to family historians.

We can only hope than another supplier of these old Ordnance Survey maps will take their place.
I suspect they will not be free, though.


This version of our background map is one of our earliest, or supposedly so.  Based on a map said to be dating from 1855, there are some significant changes to the maps we usually see of this village. Or more correctly, features we are used to seeing but did not exist when this land was surveyed.  There is also at least one serious anomaly, with this date.  The Old School, as we all know, opened in 1859, and so is not shown here. The map, here 'dated 1855', was obviously surveyed just before the school was built.

We can also note that we still have a 'High Street', rather than the later 'Church Street'.  That is no mistake, it was just so back then. But a real and major 'error' is that we clearly have a railway and its station. How could this be so .. when the railway did not open, history tells us, until 1864?  We see the station master's house is not yet built either, but could that empty box be the foundations for it?  The conclusion must be that this is an amalgam of several surveys, some earlier, some later, and not just 1855.  Indeed, looking at the original map published online by the National Library of Scotland, we see we have a very broad range of dates for all the surveys, 1842 to 1855. So we have a railway, and a station, neither of which existed in 1855. Perhaps the range of dates should have said 1842 to 1865, or thereabouts.

So this map is a little wayward, which teaches us that all old maps of this nature should be treated, if not with suspicion, then certainly with caution regarding dating.  This is where having a basic handle on the history of your area can help you spot such anomalies.  There is nothing wrong with the accuracy of the map in itself, just with the date attributed to it. But for all that, it is still a good map, and still very useful.  In Sutton's case, very much so.

The (empty) site of the school is very clear, as are the former single story cottages which stood in a continous row almost up to the old 'Workhouse', known even in modern times as 'Poor House Row.'   We see how the workhouse itself juts out into the street, just as it appears in our old photographs of 30 years later.  What at first glance looks to be a marking for a Post Office, PO, shown in front of the old cottages, is no such thing, for on closer inspection it becomes clear as simply a 'P' ... and a tiny circle, on old maps a common marking for a pump, perhaps the village pump and long before piped water. Later maps do mark those cottages as also having a pump in their grounds at the back, and the far end one was later marked as a blacksmiths.

The slightly thicker line under the word 'Pinfold' is roughly where the school wall boundary to the present free car park is now.  And that very word, pinfold, was still used for that same entrance to the back fields right up to the 1960s.  Anciently, a pinfold was a small enclosure in a village where stray animals or livestock could be impounded and kept until claimed by their owners, or even sold to cover the costs of their keeping.

Many villages had them, and the name widely survives around the country, long after the original use indicated by the name had ceased.  In Sutton, old pupils who attended the school as recently as the 1950s have told us their memories of how they left the pony on which they rode to school 'in the pinfold'. Particularly the girls, from the outlying farms, who would use their pony to come to school, leave it tethered to a fence in the pinfold for the school day with a small bag of hay for sustenance, until the ride home at about 4pm. Presumably, they left a topped up water trough too. We're told that there could be several ponies tethered there at any one time!  Right up to the 1960s, in many areas, children of farms used their ponies very much as children today use their bicycles.


The very first of the line of old cottages shown here survives today, at the front of our Old School, and now used as the Church Office - likewise with a Grade II listing for posterity. The old Workhouse, previously mentioned, later became the 'wedding green' part of the churchyard garden, and is today next to our War Memorial.  The high brick wall at the back of the wedding green rose garden, being the boundary to the higher churchyard, was fashioned from salvaged old bricks when the Workhouse was later demolished. We can also just see the emergence of Leads Rd, top left, the early days of 'West Parade', and what would become Mona House. We can note the marking of a 'Guide Post' on the far side of the 'T' junction with Wawne Road. I'm sure that was the very same post that once guided me to turn right or left on routes 36 or 37 when I first came to live in Hull !

The wobbly line, with the spot height number 25, is the contour line around the heart of the village, indicating that the ridge on which the village sits lies at a significant height above the surrounding flatter landscape, being 25 feet in old English money at that point - or just short of 8 metres - above sea level.  The lower part of that 8 metres will be the average sea level height between the lowest and highest tides, and is a good deal lower than the highest water to be seen in the River Hull at Sutton Rd Bridge today when it is nearly overtopping the bank. The 25ft line follows the site of the grassy slope formerly at the rear of the school, of fond memory to generations of pupils that enjoyed playing on the fresh grass bank in spring, or sledging down the fresh snow in winter.

The true height of Sutton's ridge is indicated by other spot heights around the village, showing small variations of between 28 to 32 feet at the highest.  The triangular symbol on the church tower shows there was a worthwhile view to the west from the top, and that the tower itself could be used as a 'trig point' for surveyors. It's a surprise, and hard to credit, that at a point just along Salthouse Rd, back then called Bilton Lane, at 34 feet, the land was actually a couple of feet higher than the site of St James's Church - the archaic grammer replicated here just as it's seen on the map.

Sutton residents of many years will easily spot that there are some significant residences missing, notably the terraced range of Church Mount and the extension to the 'Ladies Hospital' which now forms a rounded corner of Lowgate and today is termed the 'Ladies College'.  The line of Potterill Lane is clearly visible, though not named as such then. One old Sutton resident is sure it once had the name 'Love Lane', we did find an 1840 plan that designated it as such. Similarly, the line of Lime Tree Avenue, and perhaps they really are the very same lime trees that gave the avenue its name, planted long before the rows of dwellings down there.  Both public houses are shown, as are what appears to be 'Chamberlain's Charity Church of England Schools', undoubtedly the forerunner of our own - now very old - school, but not quite built then - though I imagine plans for the new school were well in hand.

But we know that the map is more accurate than first appears. The trick is how we read it.  It should be read, "Chamberlain's Charity" AND "Church Schools" - separately, on two separate lines!  For the two institutions were in fact on opposite sides of the road.  Where the last letter of the word 'Schools' appears, it is marked in exactly the right place.

For we know that in the early 1800s, the owners of the "Duke of York" in Church Street (High St back then) owned almost the whole block, round the corner into Lowgate, and round the first bend.  The curved wall that later became known for the carpet shop and the Mushroom Pottery was formerly a boundary wall, firstly to a brewhouse belonging to the 'Duke', but which later became a small abbatoir to Holmes' butchers shop. That use is recalled by people still alive in Sutton, as is the painted frieze on the curved wall depicting livestock, beasts, sheep, pigs, etc. 

But in between, even before the abbatoir, it was the site of a small church school, the map showing what may perhaps have been a yard behind that wall, long before it was covered over to gain a pantiled roof.  There are old records, tithe awards, that show that in around 1850, the vicar of St James' rented the corner part for what may perhaps have been Sutton's first Church of England School from the owner of the Duke of York alehouse.  Before the end of that decade, his 'new' church school would relocate to the brand-new building by the Pinfold that we know today - our Old School - on land donated by the Broadley family.  And this 1855 map confirms it.  Our building is over 160 years old.

The extra symbolism, the animals and creatures, are mine of course, and not part of the original map.  Anyone who knows me and my family roots will understand the reason for that particular fox,
undoubtedly though, they would have been enough of them in this area to be a concern to any of these householders that kept fowl, and that would be most of them.  Even the big houses, then increasingly being built by wealthy business and shipping folk from Hull, would have had their own chicken coops and pigsties somewhere on their land, maintained by their servants and gardening staff, of course.

What is also very noticeable to Sutton experts on first glance is the amount of land occupied by orchards, of various sizes. No shortage of apples and pears here, and I daresay nor for most other native prized fruits at the time.  We can even see the gap in the buildings, still there today, just inside Lowgate, the site of the now famous 'Pear Tree Cottage' where the pear tree still comes into full leaf every spring, and that same house being one of the very first homes of Sutton's own 'Telephone Exchange'.  We're talking 1910 here, or the years just before the First War.  That pear tree, by the way, has it's own listing in the city council's list of heritage trees in the wider Sutton conservation area.  For those not familiar with it, I've marked it with the tidliest of marks right on the front of the house where it stands today.


All the colourisation here is also mine, and it's worth also noting that the larger individual trees shown here would most certainly have been here at that time. Surveyors and cartographers did not put them in for decoration, no matter how much a bit of basic amateur artistry makes them appear so. This was the early days of the Ordnance Survey, founded to produce military maps for the army. Accuracy was everything.  If an OS map shows a tree ... there was a tree.


No doubt others who know the village better, and their own houses or businesses more intimately, will see other signs of the later changes to come, of individual new houses and rather less of orchards and green space as the population grew, largely a result of the coming of that still new railway.  But, despite all that extra building, and all the changes where Sutton has lost buildings, particularly the big houses since the 1950s, the road layout is still pretty much the same, and Sutton is still a village that could recognisably be the Sutton of this map, should a resident of 1855 be able come back and see it today.  It still retains a lot of its old character and atmosphere in abundance.

For those interested in perusing our history further, a more detailed IMAGEMAP version with historic points of interest can be seen in its own window by clicking the mini-map below. It works by moving your mouse pointer over the map, and when the pointer changes to a hand ... indicating something of interest, the text will pop up in a small box with the basic information. There are 30 historic areas and buildings marked.  How many can find them all?

We're very sad to report that Old-Maps.co.uk closed
their website business, at the end of October, 2021.
A sad loss to family historians!

click me!  ... and go to 1855

(Doesn't seem to work on a phone, though.)
When you close the map, you will come back to this Home Page.
1. where our Old School would be built in 1859
2. Barbara Robson Memorial Playing Fields, donated 1925
3. where the Reading Rooms would appear, 1877.
4. Leads Rd and West Parade, and former police cells
5. Mona House, built c18th.
6. Church Row Cottages, or Poor House Row, c17th
dem.1960s, 7. site of Church Hall from 1932
8. site of War Memorial, dedicated 1921.
9. The Poorhouse, dem.1932, later our Wedding Green.
10. St James' Church, over 660yrs old, consecrated 1359;
               formerly daughter chapel to St Peter's at Wawne.
11. St James' graveyard, over 2,000 burials since the c17th.
12. site of Hastings Manor, c15-c18, later Church Mount.
13. The Ship Inn, c.1800
14. original site of Chamberlain's Charity
15. Ladies College, former college for priests c.14th.
16. Duke of York Inn, c.1800.
17. site of St James' Sch, 1849-59, later Holme's abbatoir.
18. Pear Tree Cottage, red spot marks ancient pear tree,
                                 subject to Tree Preservation Order.
19. later site of Chamberlain's Almshouses.
20. Potterill Lane, formerly Love Lane on a plan of 1840.
21. The Hollies, aka Greenacres, and possibly a brick tower
                                                          cornmill before that.
22. became Beech Lawn.
23. became The Elms
24. former Wesleyan School
25. Methodist Chapel
26. Back Street, now Watson St, after Ann Watson charity
27. Masonic Hall, a former chapel
28. Station Master's house, Hull-Hornsea railway op. 1864
29. Kirk's Farm
30. Elm Trees, now a care home
        
  

After perusing the 1855 map, perhaps some may like to see the 1910 map, just 55 years later; the differences are quite striking.  There has been a copy at the bottom of the Museum page for some years, but I never hear of anyone making use of it. (there's one for Wawne too!)

It connects directly to Old-Maps, where you can load maps of other years, press the blue button to get rid of the 'blued print area' and the other blue button to make it full screen.  That is when the real magic starts, because then you can pull the map around with your mouse .. or finger.  It's tricky on a phone, but it can be done.  Turn the phone 'landscape, make it full screen first, then use the plus and minus buttons that come into view, press minus several times until you get the free maps.  They load the maps big to make you think you have to pay for them; you don't, just keep scrolling out, pressing minus, until the map appears.  It really is magic. OK .. to make it easier, here's a direct link:

Sutton 1910 - at old-maps.co.uk
( opens in a new window )
Have fun.  Enjoy!



  The Webmanager's Favourite Historical Quote

I first discovered this incisive quote
, when I was well past 60. I realised that this is exactly what my history teacher at Crown Hills School was trying to teach us over 50 years ago, albeit in not so many words.

For these words ring just as true now as they did back then, even more so with the pace of change today being so much faster than my own childhood days. If those of our children - that show an interest in their history - understand these thoughts below by the time they leave school, they will be well on their way to understanding not only themselves, but their own country.
Trevallyn's very last sentence sums it all up very well. 

"In political history one King at a time reigns; one Parliament at a time sits. But in social history we find in every period several different kinds of social and economic organisation going on simultaneously in the same country, the same shire, the same town.

Thus, in the realm of agriculture, we find the open-field strip cultivation of the Anglo-Saxons still extant in the eighteenth century, side by side with ancient enclosed fields of the far older Celtic pattern, and modern enclosures scientifically cultivated by methods approved by Arthur Young (ed. an English historian and agriculturalist in the c.18th).

And so it is with the varieties of industrial and commercial organisation - the domestic, the craft, the capitalist systems are found side by side down the centuries. In everything the old overlaps the new - in religion, in thought, in family custom. There is never any clear cut; there is no single moment when all Englishmen adopt new ways of life and thought."

G.M. Trevelyan:   from his preface to 'An English Social History', 1942.

He also said:
Education... has produced a vast population able to read but unable to distinguish what is worth reading.

Oh, so true, but we'll leave that for another time . . . .

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