FAMILY HISTORY ENQUIRIES : ARCHIVES IN THE SUTTON & WAWNE MUSEUM : PHOTO COLLECTIONS IN THE SUTTON & WAWNE MUSEUM : GRAMPS : a free FH app seriously folks, a FREE app to get you started! GENERAL FAMILY HISTORY LINKS : MILITARY LINKS : to ease your eyes, please do use your View menu and then Fonts or Zoom to enlarge the type; If using a mouse, Ctrl + the mouse wheel also resizes the page. F11 should also give you a full screen view. These pages are not designed for mobile phones, but it helps if you can turn your phone sideways for a 'landscape' view. Most modern phones have that facility, but few have it set to use it. If you were thinking of phoning, emailing or writing to either of the vicars, or the Parish Offices of St James' or St Peter's churches, for help on Family History enquiries, please see below for guidance on where help is best obtained. IMPORTANT INFORMATION
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MILITARY LINKS &
RESEARCH
QUESTIONS .. QUESTIONS ?? There is an extensive list of Military Links to aid with researching Regimental, Naval and Air Forces information on your forebears, on the OTHER LINKS button in the menu or click here. It includes a list of "QUESTIONS FOR OLD SOLDIERS", being a dozen or so suggested questions that 'younger' Family Historians could use when they ask their grandparents about their service time in the Armed Forces. IN A SIMILAR VEIN, SUGGESTED QUESTIONS F O R Y O U N G F O L K S TO ASK THEIR GRANDPARENTS ABOUT THEIR LIVES GENERALLY & SOME SERIOUSLY FREE ADVICE If you're just starting out
and
know nothing at all about your family, I've prepared a longer list of suggested "QUESTIONS FOR GRANDPARENTS" This also opens in a new window. Use or abuse as you wish. Some serious tips for new researchers of all ages: Firstly, a top recommended TIP:
If you do come to visit us at Sutton, it's a
great idea to bring a memory stick/card with
you. We can also save info to most SD camera
cards. At a push, we can let you take info
away with you if you bring a blank CD/DVD, but
it's not quite so versatile. A stick or card
is by far the best. We can print off most
photos, docs, and maps, etc, for a donation to
our funds, but copying to a memory stick or
card is quicker and cheaper for us. And of
course, all donations are welcome. The latest records online we can access for free, as in censuses showing lists of residents of streets, is the previously mentioned 1939 Index, or Register. It's not a full census as in the previous censuses, this was taken as an emergency right at the start of the war. So if you can't recall your grandma's married name, but can recall which street she lived in just before the war, you have a chance of finding something. Even something as vague as recalling a neighbouring family's name your Grandma often talked about can help. So talk to your very oldest
relatives and write down as much as you can.
Especially birthdates, and get the year if
nothing else, as well as middle names if any;
you will soon find middle names or even just
an initial can be so crucial in identifying
the right person when you have a choice of
five Harry Robinsons to choose from. Knowing
his middle name was Albert could clinch it.
Marriage dates, the years, etc, all help even
further. Write down EVERYTHING! If you're not good with maps, geography, have no idea where one village is in relation to it's neighbours, we can put you onto a free programme you can download for free, "Parish Locator v.5". Enter a parish, and it tells you all the neighbouring parishes within 5, 10 or 20 miles, whatever county they're in. Magic! Even more useful when your parish is near a county boundary and it reveals villages just 5 miles away that would not appear to be anything to do with your relations, until their surname crops up in a marriage certificate. Then you find the bride and groom lived only 5 miles apart and their families had probably known each other for years. Try it. You'd be amazed at how easy it is to dive in with an expensive subscription, only to later realise that much of the info you first gained by paying for it, you could have got for nothing anyway. We can show you how to do that too. We're not into wasting money either. Remember that much of current TV
advertising, for well-known ancestry sites, as
well as genealogy programmes, most definitely
want you to believe ONLY THEY can help you -
for a fee of course. That's marketing. But
it's Not True! Also, be wary of
signing up for these latest DNA test offers.
They will not tell you your family tree, nor
who your great-grandparents were. They
can only confirm or rule out a genetic
relationship once you have found them. In many
cases, they can be more trouble than they are
worth. Sometimes, a very great trouble!
Beware. Buyer beware too ... and be careful. Join a local society or club first, visit your local history museum or family history centre (like us in Sutton) and above all else, talk to your elders! And take notes. And here endeth this first lecture! But in time, if you persue this quest, you'll thank me for it. Honest. Trust me. Not many you can trust these days, but you can me! |
More FREE Advice
If you've already done some searching around online for such
a beast, you'll know that just about every online search
takes you to three or four main places - usually expensive
places at that. There are 'free' family history places
online where you can construct your tree ... but beware,
'free' these days usually means they come with caveats, like
advertising, annoying 'pop-ups' and endless promotional
material enclosed. And of course, they are 'online', which
is fine if you can guarantee your internet connection,
guarantee those sites will stay in business, and guarantee
they will never change the deal, ie, that they'll stay free
and never ask you for money. You
will also then quickly learn what a GEDcom is, that beloved
universal file format, saved like 'yourfamily.ged', which
will reload into ANY family history programme, and can also
be uploaded to ROOTSWEB. So you don't have to enter all your
data twice. Likewise, any tree you build on ROOTSWEB can be
saved as a GEDcom, and then downloaded for your safe keeping
- thus becoming your important and very valuable backup. But
you wouldn't be able to use your GEDcom properly unless you
have a family tree programme that can read it, though you
could see your data in hundreds of pages of plain text in a
word-processor, for that is all a GEDcom is, a very long
text file. The acronym stands for "Genealogical Data
Communication". It is the way the text is arranged, with all
the details in a strictly specified certain order, that
makes it readable in the tables and windows of any FH
programme of your choice. When you are in charge, having
a copy of your own FH data, then the whole world-wide
market is open to you, to chose where, and if, you want
to spend your money. And the peace of mind you get from
total control is priceless.
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If you're totally new to Family History, and want to have
a quick
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A LIST OF LOCAL LINKS AND OTHER ARCHIVES Top of Page Few churches, if any, still hold their own original Parish Records; they are far too fragile and valuable to be risked 'out in the parishes' as they used to be in days of yore, often stored in damp vestrys in the 'parish chest.' This is the case with Sutton and Wawne's parish records. We do have here many other records, and copies of records, though most detailed enquiries about Births, Marriages and Deaths formerly held within the old Church and Parish Archives are best directed to one of two places; Before you start looking anywhere for hard-copy records, bear this in mind: Sutton on Hull is an oddity; it has feet in 'both camps'. Up to 1927, Sutton was in the county, so early parish records reside in the county archives at Beverley, the ancient county town. After 1927, the Hull city boundary extended to include Sutton, so modern records to do with residents, electoral registers, wartime records, etc, reside with HCC, specifically at The History Centre. Exactly the same situation applies to the many 'old villages', now suburbs, of our bigger towns and cities today. Boundaries move, jurasdictions change, and you end up with your family history being covered by two separate Records Offices, often dozens of miles apart. Such is life. 1. THE TREASURE HOUSE, BEVERLEY ... County Record Office, East Riding Archives Lord Roberts Road, Beverley, East Yorkshire HU17 9BA Tel Hull 392790 Email their librarians and archivists. The above link opens a new browser window to the East Riding Archives, in The Treasure House, for most of the original church records of all churches in the East Riding. Any records there are in Sutton & Wawne are only extracts and copies pertaining to those villages themselves, and are not complete for the area. There is a tremendous amount of information there at Beverley .. maps, census returns, hearth taxes, Poor Law Unions, Quarter and Petty Sessions Court proceedings and judgements, and a host more. You'll probably do your first or earliest research in Sutton, at this Family History Resource Centre inside the Old School, which is more often now called the museum. Then you could explore what the local government archives may have later. Their website is a useful first stop to tell you what they have, and where it may be found, but you'll still need to go to Beverley at some time to see the actual records themselves. 2. HULL HISTORY CENTRE In 2008, a great historic change came to Hull. The new Hull History Centre, on the former Mason St car park literally directly opposite the Central Fire Station, was then a £10.5million multi-funded project, with funds coming partly from government, local authorities and the National Lottery. The building opened in January, 2010. Local History Archives, from the city library, Hull University and previously hidden city archives, are now centralised, and some of the sites listed here have transferred a good deal of their family history activity to the new site. It is impressive. An excellent facility, and it did Hull proud. BUT PLEASE BE AWARE OF NEW OPENING TIMES; Ongoing Government cut-backs this past 10yrs or more now mean our flagship city facility is likely to progressively open less and less. It's closed altogether on Mondays, and only opens alternate Saturdays. Words like 'End', 'Wedge' and 'Thin' are the ones that immediately come to mind. Plans are afoot to privatise the History Centre, along with other libraries and leisure facilities. Entrance and use of the facilities is free for Hull residents, for now. The truth is, if we hadn't got that facility when we did, we wouldn't have got it now. Hull residents will increasingly find it a hard trick to keep hold of it through never-ending funding cuts, or even keep it at all. CARN CARDS: these are needed to access the deep archives, voter registers for years past, etc. But the CARN system is being updated, to take account of Data Protection rules. If you already have one, you will need to re-register to renew it. HULL & DISTRICT LOCAL HISTORY RESEARCH GROUP . . . does now have its own website. The Group was set up in 2006, meets on Thursday mornings at Garden Village Clubhouse, and is open to new members with a specific interest in Hull's local history, and they arrange many walks and talks, most of which take place on Thursday mornings. ARCHON . . . is a very useful site if you are starting from scratch, and particularly if you live away from your original family area. So if you're in the East Riding, but your heritage is Worcestershire and you've no idea how to make a start, and cannot physically get back there, look at this excellent site provided by the National Archives. You will see all the resources in Worcestershire, internet links, giving you some idea of which records do exist. Then, if you have the opportunity to go back to Worcester yourself, or can get someone there to help you, you can be pre-armed with a list of addresses and contacts. ARCHON gives a link to every County Archive centre, equal to our Treasure House in Beverley, where you would get at the very least the details of the local family history society, which would be an excellent place to start remote searching from hundreds of miles away. DUSTY DOCS . . . worth a visit to see the vast number of links, to a huge number of genealogy-related history subjects. A mine of information indeed, including to other countries and indexes - or should that be indexi .. In the Guides menu on the left-hand side, go down 6 links, to a fairly innocent question, "What are Parish Records." Clicking that link will lead you into a page that very well explains the answer to that question, but also a box in which you enter which country, so England, Ireland, etc. This then magically unlocks into huge lists of info that will make your heart jump if you are new to this. These helpful sites make MY heart jump, and a wish that we had as much free info to start with 30 years ago. For instance, there's a description of that incurable condition commonly known as 'genealogy-pox' - as well as other medieval conditions and occupations. For strangers to the UK and our county system, there's a useful map and guide to the 'real' counties of Britain, ie, pre-1974 when so-called local government reforms messed it all up with new names and and boundary changes that still baffle today's researchers. It explains the differences between our historic counties, those areas and names that go back to Norman and Saxon times, and the later 'administrative counties', created by government acts and reforms from the 1800s onwards to deal with censuses and increasing urbanisation as big towns and cities got even bigger. Confusion didn't all start with 1974. There's a free family tree chart to download to get you started, and lots of other similar helpful items. It has to be said that the site is heavily linked to "Family Search", ie, the Mormon Church site in Salt Lake City, but they have come on a long way. Perhaps that may be because, even today the IGI (Family Search) is still such a big archive and mostly accessible for free. For those starting out, and unsure whether to spend money on research or how much, this DustyDocs is a good place to start, as enormous amounts can be discovered for free. We did most of our own family tree using the IGI (as I call it), when there were far fewer resources 10 years ago than there are now. I.G.I. stands for International Genealogical Index, so in other words, Family Search and the Mormon Church -- all the same thing. CYNDI'S LIST . . . the world famous Family History Research site, operating now for over 40 years and going from strength to strength. We have submitted our own site address now that we are a dot-org site. As many genealogists everywhere will tell you, this site is like gold dust when you've hit that proverbial brick wall. It is huge, with an enormous number of links. If stuck with your own family line, give this one a try, especially if you are looking for family emigration to or from the US or Canada, or the wider world. They can show you records of small towns in the back of beyond you would never find otherwise. If they show you a link that is 'broken', check their updated links page. You never know what you may find. You can also apply to the list to post a link of your own, or suggest one you have found helpful by going direct to THIS PAGE ALSO .. here is a FANTASTIC free internet resource for local East Yorkshire folk .. you can get to it via the link above, but here is a direct line . . it opens in a new browser . . . YorkshireBMD ... the online record for Yorkshire Births, Marriages and Deaths. An incredible resource to be available so quickly. I tried it in the Birth Index with my neighbour's name, and instantly brought up basic details of his birth year, and ALSO his other family members. It doesn't say, just yet, who is related to who .. you have to work that out for yourself. Tip: if you want it to check ALL years from 1837 to 1947, hold down the Ctrl AND the Shift keys as you select the first year, and the last. Then it'll check the lot. If you don't put in an initial, it will find every birth registered under that name between 1837 and 1937 . . then 1946 +1947. For one very good reason, the Hull birth index for the war years are missing . . that's because expectant mothers were mostly evacuated out of the city to safer places in the country. Many wartime babies were born at Gate Burton Hall near Gainsborough, which had a wing converted to a maternity ward. It seems a long way, but it was just a ferry and a bus ride away, that was no worse than going to Bridlington. The site has some 188,000 marriages already done, and just a few deaths so far. Updates are going up by the week .. there's a FAQ page, and a list of what areas and years have been covered so far. FreeBMD
. . . another excellent free online
resource, but covering all the UK, run by
the same people as above at YorksBMD. Search
by county, then by town. Be aware, that
unlike other indexes, when inputting your
relative's name, the Surname goes in
first .. it catches me out every
time. I'm not going to admit to how many
times I've searched for Smith Hilda ! MYHERITAGE.com ... the
one British site we can offer here, growing
fast and does appear to be very good.
But, it is a pay site, with a 14-day free
trial. Run from London, owned by
publishers DC Thomson, it should be reliable
so long as internet connections are robust,
as they increasingly are these days.
Not always so in the past. The main
point here, being British, you are not
dependant on "continuing good relations in
international trade." That makes me
sound prejudiced. Perhaps so, insomuch
I trust no one when we know they are only
after our pennies. Foreign is foreign,
it means just that. Don't be fooled by
so-called guarantees. Such
'requesters' will almost certainly be
offended when they read it. I'm not
bothered anymore. I've gone beyond being
bothered or care if certain 'business'
folk are offended or not. I tell it
how it is. For those genuinely
interest in history, BRITISH history, they
don't even need to see it, so, best to
move on .. .. ..
Top of Page It's worth remembering that the present Clergy and Church Office have little or no information about Sutton's distant past. Indeed, for historical information, the vicar comes to us. What local knowledge there is, from a purely historical point of view, now resides in the main with other (and mainly older) members of the congregation and parish who specialise in family or local history. Where they can, they are glad to help, but in most cases, they could only point you in the direction of the few sites already listed here, or direct you to the Family History Resource Centre in the Museum inside The Old School, mostly on Friday lunchtimes from 10am to 2pm. We now have a typed, digitised and searchable record in the Museum of most of the 2,000 or so graves in St James' churchyard, (the MI's, or Monumental Inscriptions), as well as photos of just about all of them, and also a similar record of the 214 graves in St Peter's at Wawne. And yes, we do now hold photos of those at St Peter's too. The details of what may be available are in the "Archives Available at Sutton" section below. The two booklets that formerly comprised the grave records are now published as one spiral bound volume, also available to purchase from the local societies, local libraries, etc, priced around �12, plus p&p - (in 2015). MI's for most of the East Riding, including Wawne, are now available via mail-order online from the East Yorkshire Family History Society, on their Publications Page. They have prices for overseas postage too. But for most "original"
archives, to get photocopies of Parish
Records, wills, etc, you need to be at The
City Record Office or the East Riding
Archives listed above. It's difficult to
be specific there; it depends on the
records you are seeking. Up to 1927,
Sutton was in the East Riding, so old
parish records are lodged at The Treasure
House in Beverley. I understand now that
they have most of St James' records up to
1974. Records after that are with Hull
City Council, and generally reside at the
History Centre behind the New
Theatre. Wawne still is in the East
Riding, and all their records are at
Beverley. Copies of birth and death
certificates for Sutton can be obtained
from Beverley Treasure House for dates up
to around 1927, and from Hull City Council
at The Wilson Centre in Alfred Gelder St
for modern times. For any other research
information, or to view copies of certain
archives dealing just with Sutton and
Wawne, there is a short list below
detailing a little of what is available
here in The Resource Centre in the former
Sutton School. There is a surprising
amount even here, yet this is by no means
a complete list of all there is to be
seen. Every week sees new people from the
far corners of the earth taking the
opportunity of being in Sutton to go and
research some aspect of their family
history. Fridays, 10 - 2pm, are a
regular lunchtime club in there, and
whilst I wouldn't guarantee you'll find
first time what you came for, you will
certainly find a lot of other fascinating
information pertaining to the village your
forebears lived in, and your own heritage.
Apart from that, it's almost alongside the
church, the graveyard is round the back,
and the Sutton War Memorial is also 'next
door' on Church Street front. Wawne church
and churchyard are about a mile-an-a-half
further up Wawne Rd. Research here is
unexpectedly and conveniently quite
compact. Naturally, bring a camera. If you
also have a smartphone, you will also have
a way of taking digital notes as well as
photos. A list of other
useful links to other websites is below, Click
here if you want to see a picture
of Rob,
your website host and admin bod. You'll wish you hadn't .... ARCHIVES AVAILABLE
in the "Old School and Family History
Resource Centre" |
The CD's now available contain : | ||
1881 British Census | and National Index for
England, Scotland, Wales, Channel Islands, Isle of Man, and the Royal Navy |
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1851 Census | partial transcription (names
only) of the East Yorkshire Family History Society area in eastern Yorkshire |
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1861 Census | a transcription of eastern
Yorkshire from the Humber to the Tees |
East Yorkshire Family History Society |
1871Census | a transcription of Beverley
Registration District RGI0 4767 - 4772 |
E Y F H S |
1871 Census | a transcription of Patrington
Registration District RG10 4798 & 4799 |
E Y F H S |
1901 Census | CD 29 - Sculcoates RG 13 4466 - 4485 | E Y F H S |
1901 Census | CD 30 - Sculcoates | E Y F H S |
1901 Census | CD 31 - Hull, for Holy Trinity & St. Mary Parishes | E Y F H S |
1901 Census | Sutton without | E Y F H S |
Beverley Guardian Newspaper | Births, marriages and deaths 1856 - 1878 - |
E Y F H S |
Mormon Immigration Index | Latter Day Saints immigration
voyages to the United States for the years 1840 - 1890 |
Church of Jesus Christ
of Latter Day Saints |
1851 BRITISH CENSUS |
DEVON, NORFOLK & WARKWICKSHIRE | |
THE CLERGY LIST for 1897 |
a CD for the whole of the UK,
and seemingly, the whole British Empire. Effectively a Who's Who of the whole Church of England, from vicars to archbishops, their education, and all positions held worldwide, as of 1897. |
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We also have copies of some PARISH REGISTERS available on CD. | ||
HULL HOLY TRINITY |
BAPTISMS 1792-1812 | E Y F H S |
HULL SCULCOATES |
MARRIAGES 1804-1829 | E Y F H S |
HULL SCULCOATES |
BAPTISMS 1772-1831 | E Y F H S |
HULL SCULCOATES |
BURIALS 1772 - 1792 | E Y F H S |
LOCAL DIRECTORIES on CD: | ||
KELLY'S | 1872 | |
NOBLES | 1838 | |
PIGOTS | 1834 | |
PURDENS | 1839 | |
HULL TRADE DIRECTORY 1892 | ... SEARCH BY TRADE OR STREET NAME | |
and also available still on floppy disk: LOST TRAWLERMEN OF HULL ... SEARCH BY NAME or SHIP .... 203 x A4 PAGES OF TRAGEDY .. these pages are also on the internet. " EAST YORKSHIRE POSTCARDS " a CD by Frank Farnsworth, a separate collection pertaining to Sutton. " STONEFERRY PUBS " by Paul Gibson, and quite a bit of other information besides. Hull Through the Ages Hull & District Directory 1842, First Directory of Hull 1791 Ancient maps of the City of Hull. Hull Times Index - 1856 - 1945. Roe family history. King & Catterick
family photos and documents. |
A LOT OF MILITARY DETAILS . . . on some local men who served, photos, medal collections, etc, in the Army, Royal Navy & Royal Marines, and RAF. Plus records and details of Sutton in BOTH World Wars, Civilian Defence, ARP, local bomb damage, and much more .. ration books, leave passes, much memorabilia to be seen as well as documentation.
THE RAF BALLOON SITE . . . an amazing amount of information,
maps and plans, records, etc, of The 17th
Balloon Barrage Site 1939-42 . . and of
RAF Sutton on to the 1960's. Maps
& Plans include the location of balloons
around Hull, moored on the Humber, and of the
boom gate defences at the Humber mouth, and a
tremendous amount of other information. Many
folks don't realise the importance of this
Balloon Site and its part in the defence of Hull
and the Humber ports. Just as important as
fighters, in fact, and a largely untold and
unsung story of Royal Air Force history.
Copies of
Leonard C Bacon's book about RAF Sutton,
details much of of the above.
when we had some, but is sadly now out-of-stock
all profits went to the fund for the placement of For those
interested in
World War 2 Barrage Balloon operations,
there is also a website :
Barrage Balloon Reunion Club
BRITISH HISTORY ONLINE
**new!** Nov'23
SUTTON in HOLDERNESS, in great detail. For those
seeking a deeper, more detailed and very distant
history of our village, this link will perhaps
give you more than you bargained for. Yes,
there are family names in here, ancient names of
the leading local lights some 800 to a 1,000
years ago, Normans, Plantagenets, to Tudor,
Stuarts and up to Victorian and recent times.
Learn about Lanbert, a vassal of Drew de
Bevrere, in 1086. Opens in a new
window.
TINSTAAFL ... an
enigmatic name, true, based on an old saying about
free dinners. Old folks will know. But here within
this fantastic link is an index compiled through
sheer hard work, a tremendous marriage index for St James'
Church, from 1757 to 1837. In the
whole index, covering most counties in England
& Wales, there are just under 2 million
records, that these people have researched and
digitised their findings for family historians
just like us. All Free! Seriously. You
get it now ... ?
Quite something to come across unexpectedly. Both
links load in a new window.
COMMONWEALTH WAR GRAVES COMMISSION . . FREE .. an excellent searchable database, an incredible and lasting memorial to EVERY man and woman that served and lost their lives in BOTH World Wars with ANY of the armed forces of the UK and Commonwealth . . or as it was then, the Empire. It includes all Merchant Navy losses, RAF losses at sea, and a great deal you wouldn't at first have thought of. All you need to know is the individual's name and initials, the service they served with, the war they died in, and of course, the country. And if you don't know all of those, there's still ways . . . it's worth a try.
THE CIVILIAN WAR DEAD INDEX of YORKSHIRE, NORTHUMBERLAND & DURHAM .. FREE .. is an incredible list of the war dead of those three counties. As you look down it, you'll see an amazing number of Hull names and families who lost their lives in the various air raid attacks on Hull during the blitz. For people NOT from Hull, who ever doubted how bad Hull was hit during WW II, then take a look at this. The entries that read .. Hull, ERY .. seem endless. See the link below . . . .
Maps of Hull showing the
fall of bombs during the Blitz .. FREE
.. is really 16 scans, A4 size, of a larger
streetmap of Hull, dated 1945. It tells it's
own story, and is some testament to the 1,300
Hull residents killed, listed above in the
Civilian Index, and the 12,000 injured, during
those dark days. Opens in a new Window.
The map has recently (2021) been
improved. Originally just black and
white, the plots are now clearer and marked in
red, and a lot of the harder to read street
names have been clarified. Again, please
note, these are just high explosive plots, not
incendiaries or fire bombs, there were many
thousands of those that started fires and
destroyed buildings not hit by a convential HE
bomb.
Please Note: There is a much larger and
comprehensive list of Military Links
here,
covering all three of the Armed Forces.
A Glossary of Terms used in Heraldry .. FREE .. if you get far enough back that you need to decipher heraldic devices, you are indeed fortunate. This may help you on your way . .
EYFHS
. . the East Yorkshire Family History
Society have an excellent webshop, where there
is a complete list of all their publications,
including Monumental Inscriptions (headstone
records in churchyards), Parish Records,
Census Records, Maps and newspaper extracts,
for EVERY East Yorkshire village, a regular A
to Z . . from Aike to Youlethorpe. They vary
in price from �1.60 to about �6.50 for the
larger ones, Beverley, Bridlington, etc, and
can be ordered via email, and pay by cheque,
or paid for online via PayPal. Or you can
write to their Publications Officer, at :
Mrs Judith Bangs
5 Curlew Close
Molescroft
BEVERLEY
East Yorkshire
HU17 7QN
They also have an online Helpdesk, available
to all as well as full-members:
EYFHS
Helpdesk
Help can also be obtained from their members
weekly at the
Carnegie Centre on Anlaby Rd, and also inside
The History Centre in Hull.
Additionally, it is possible to buy other
records and transcripts on both CD and floppy
disk, eg. 1851 East Yorkshire Census and
Parish Register Transcripts.
EYLHS
EAST YORKSHIRE LOCAL HISTORY
SOCIETY . . not to be confused with the Family
History Society above, leads to their
excellent website, listing the publications of
the EYLHS, and where to buy them from.
Publications range from "Hull & East
Yorkshire Breweries" to "The Beginnings of the
East Yorkshire Railways" and "The Viking
Century in East Yorkshire". Only available by
post, I'm afraid, for the time being.
It opens in a separate window so you don't
lose this one.
EYMS a
Facebook vehicle enthusiasts site ... of
interest to vehicle and transport historians re
the huge variety of marques and types of buses
operated by this renowned company over the past
years. There did used to be a huge archive
hosted by the company itself, testament to deep
and genuine interest in the history of this very
old Hull company by its former owners. But, no
longer. The new company, now owned by a
remote Newcastle-based firm, appears to only pay
lip service to it's history with one featureless
page containing just ten paragraphs of text.
They appear to have lost sight of where their
future generation of drivers and engineers are
nurtured, during their schooldays, and will come
to regret such off-hand lack of provision. No
doubt bosses will say they've no time for the
past, it's all about selling tickets. Just
the money. Of course it is, it's all that
counts now in this brave new world.
KHCT
vehicles in another archive ... the
Flickr photo archive of author Paul Morfitt.
Superb collection of street scenes, shop fronts,
roads and city centre scenes now altered beyond
belief, plus memories of the old Coach Station
of late memory, as it was called in it's heyday
when that EYMS coach depicted above used to
leave daily for Newcastle and Tyneside .. plus
trolleybuses, railway crossings. It does seem
strange, that some 35+ years after privatisation
and dismemberment of the bus industry, there is
now talk of local authorities once more being
'allowed' to run their own bus services.
Old Maps UK . . [WAS
FREE .. took you to a site where you could
view several old maps of Sutton village, from
c.1885 to the 1970s. SORRY - no longer
available for free, site has closed]
BROOKLANDS PHOTOGRAPHIC SOCIETY . . .
meet in the Methodist Church Hall in Sutton. A
growing site of dedicated photographers,
skilled in both traditional film processes as
well as today's digital medium, together with
all the scanning, printing and display tuition
anyone could wish for.
HULL FISHING HERITAGE CENTRE
. . . located presently in The Boulevard,
Hessle Road .. dedicated to preserving Hull's
fishing history and telling a remarkable story
to future generations about the true price of
our fish. Astonishingly, for today's family
historians, the site has 33 Pages of
Fisherman's Record Cards, all scanned and
viewable, including photos of the trawlers
they served on. Be warned - some very touching
stories on there, thought provoking at the
very least. A wonderful heritage bar
none!+ Takes a few secs to load, give it
time. It works.
BRITISH LISTED BUILDINGS ONLINE - a private database website, being an online database of buildings and structures that are listed as being of special architectural and historic interest. As well as reading the official listing data for each building, you can also view the location on a map, and, where possible, see it in Google Streetview and Bing Birds Eye View. You can also add your own comments, information and photos and view comments and photos submitted by other users of the site. Our Old School is on there, with our full technical details too. You can browse for listed buildings by country, county and parish or locality. A wonderful online resource, and should be better known and supported.
FRIENDS OF HULL GENERAL
CEMETERY . . . a cemetery with a
fascinating history. Not least that it was
founded as a private cemetery, where many of
Hull's most notable nobles were buried. It has
had a very chequered history, and still does.
The future of this old burial ground and now
an inner-city nature reserve is by no means
certain, a place which Philip Larkin once
described as 'the most beautiful place in
Hull.'
HULL AND EAST RIDING HISTORICAL ASSOCIATION . . . bringing people together that have a love of history in all it's guises, both local and the many areas of deeper speciality. Enjoy discovering more on many topics through lectures and discussion. They invite interested historians to their meetings and events, both as a visitor or becoming a local branch member. Their very interesting website lists their forthcoming programme of events.
See just how much help there is around for Sutton & Wawne folk just getting into this . . if you've been 'thinking' of researching your family history, there really is no excuse for prevaricating any longer, help is dripping from the trees! It's never been easier. You can find out so much before you even leave your house, and we can show you how.
If you really do feel that you need to write to someone at Sutton, we will do our best to help. In the first instance, write to us, CLICK HERE , and we'll try to direct you to the best source of information. It is almost certain that the vicar or the Parish Office will re-direct all enquiries to one of us anyway, so this will save you time. There are two or three other people we can direct you to depending on the nature of your enquiry; a few dealing with more general local history and maps, etc, we will be able to help you with, and be glad to do so. If you sign in to our Guestbook, do remember to leave your email address, so we can contact you. In the meantime, we hope this page has been of help.
Whoever, or whatever, you are looking for,
We wish you Luck, and God Speed.
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The
Ballad of Susie Lee
Susie Lee, she fell in love,
She planned to marry Joe,
She was so happy 'bout it all;
She told her Pappa so.
Pappa told her, Susie lass,
You'll have to find another,
I'd just as soon your Ma don't
know,
But Joe is yo' half-brother."
So Susie forgot all about her
Joe,
And planned to marry Will,
But, after telling Pappa this,
He said, There's trouble
still.
You can't marry Will, my lass,
And please don't tell your
Mother,
'Cause Will and Joe and
several more
I know are your half-brother.
But Mamma knew and said "Honey
Child,
Do what makes you happy,
Marry Will . . . or marry Joe,
You ain't no kin to Pappy!"
Well !! I say .. .